Spirituality
21 Sep 17
22 Sep 17
Originally posted by @wolfgang59That should be 3 - 4 hundred per million of population. 😞
Reported rapes in USA, UK and NZ are all about 3-4 per million of population.
Guns don't seem to matter do they?
Originally posted by @divegeesterYou are right there.
US Christians seem to think like no other Christians I've ever met.
Or at least US Christians on the internet are a weird bunch.
I've Christian friends in UK and NZ,
have foster children saying Grace at my table,
do what I can in my community.
But on the Spirituality forum I seem to be one of the Sons of Satan!
And they are happy to kill someone in their home!
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Originally posted by @wolfgang59I've been called the most horrible things imaginable for a Christian to be called, by other Christians on this forum. Just because we disagree about stuff. It's extraordinary.
You are right there.
Or at least US Christians on the internet are a weird bunch.
I've Christian friends in UK and NZ,
have foster children saying Grace at my table,
do what I can in my community.
But on the Spirituality forum I seem to be one of the Sons of Satan!
And they are happy to kill someone in their home!
And yet generally it is they who exhibit negative characteristics: Paranoid, right-wing, dogmatic, hard-nosed, grudge-bearing, sour, angry, vengeful, entitled.
22 Sep 17
Originally posted by @bigdoggproblemThis atheist scarab does not see it this way.
I am an American, and this country is full of people who love both Jesus and Guns. I suppose I find that a little bit odd, given the overall pacific nature of Jesus' teachings.
I suppose target practice is harmless enough. I admit that I both own guns and yet do not consider myself a violent person.
But my neighbor's door recently got kicked in ...[text shortened]... re-lived the shooting again and again. I fear that final face of the dead person would haunt me.
It is disgusting to even think to empty your 12-gauge to an intruder, but it is unskillful to permit the rape and the murder of the ones you love. Facing any kind of unprovoked murderous attack in my home, I would help on the spot my attacker's spirit to break free from its shell, feeling deep compassion for the death of that sentient being. Then I would conduct extreme ownership and face the consequences in full.
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22 Sep 17
Originally posted by @black-beetleI agree, it depends on the physical threat rather than mere fact someone has entered a premises unlawfully. I would have absolutely no compunction in ending someone if I thought they were a real threat to my family or indeed myself.
This atheist scarab does not see it this way.
It is disgusting to even think to empty your 12-gauge to an intruder, but it is unskillful to permit the rape and the murder of the ones you love. Facing any kind of unprovoked murderous attack in my home, I would help on the spot my attacker's spirit to break free from its shell, feeling deep compassion f ...[text shortened]... at sentient being. Then I would conduct extreme ownership and face the consequences in full.
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Originally posted by @divegeesterYes. We like to think according to Biblical truth. Something you obviously have difficulty with.
US Christians seem to think like no other Christians I've ever met.
23 Sep 17
Originally posted by @divegeesterIt's called the Castle Doctrine. Shoot first. Ask questions later.
The idea that it is ok to kill someone if they break into your home is a typical American knee-jerk philosophy, also seen with the rhetoric Trump uses to threaten North Korea.
A criminal breaks into your home they risk the consequences. If North Korea launches a strike against the U.S. they will be annihilated.
Originally posted by @josephwI sometimes wish this god stuff was real so that you could experience banging on the
It's called the Castle Doctrine. Shoot first. Ask questions later.
A criminal breaks into your home they risk the consequences. If North Korea launches a strike against the U.S. they will be annihilated.
Pearly Gates of Heaven while us decent non-believers are all inside playing jazz-harps.
Originally posted by @josephwGive it a try. It's the thread topic. For instance, are avowedly non-violent/anti-violence, pacifist, non-gun owner Christians [like Jehovah's Witnesses for example] in some way failing "to think according to Biblical truth" with regard to gun ownership and the right to kill?
You wouldn't understand.
23 Sep 17
Originally posted by @divegeesterThey broke into your home. Opening a dialogue with the assailant and hesitating may cost you and your family's life.
I agree, it depends on the physical threat rather than mere fact someone has entered a premises unlawfully. I would have absolutely no compunction in ending someone if I thought they were a real threat to my family or indeed myself.
A criminal breaks into your home they assume the risk they may be killed. That makes them a very dangerous person.
23 Sep 17
Originally posted by @wolfgang59That's not what I said.
So killing someone who is attempting to steal your tv is ok?
23 Sep 17
Originally posted by @josephwI can understand the argument justifying this, but I am interested in what bearing your notion of "Biblical truth" has on it, or how "Biblical truth" applies to someone who disagrees. What I want to know is how is there any religious or specifically Biblical/Christian angle to the assertion of the right to use lethal force in self-defence?
They broke into your home. Opening a dialogue with the assailant and hesitating may cost you and your family's life.
A criminal breaks into your home they assume the risk they may be killed. That makes them a very dangerous person.