Back to Spirituality

Ah I love the smell of napalm in the morning ....

@divegeester said
It isn’t, and you know it. Don’t lie.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
You sound paranoid. Nobody talks about you and on the rare occasion you have been mentioned people have spoken truthfully about you and your bizarre antics.

@divegeester said
Don’t try to conflate the point. I am talking directly to and only about you.

No paranoia old boy Sir, I’ve seen the post.

@ghost-of-a-duke said

Was it the post where I compared you to a hamster?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I stand by anything I have ever said about you, in public and in private.

@ghost-of-a-duke said

Was it the post where I compared you to a hamster?

So, back to spirituality then ...

@divegeester said
Atheists keep bringing theism into into this discourse, I don’t.

This discussion is basically about the definition of the word spirituality but the only reason I’m interested in it is that I see those here who like to enjoy their platform of science, rationality and logic attempting to also enjoy the eclectic nebulous irrationality of the spiritual.

It’s fake, and I’m calling them on it.

@philokalia said
It believes in the transmigration of... something.

You could make the argument that old Buddhism was hard atheist, but it doesn't really make sense in the context of how modern Buddhists throughout the world tend to believe, and how we can imagine the average Buddhist generally believing throughout the ages, and the tight little web of interpretations necessary ...[text shortened]... way that it tends to be understood and practiced even by very modern Buddhists like Thich Nhat Hanh.

@divegeester
Here's what you posted on page 3:
"Spirituality is a realm of the supernatural, perhaps the only realm. If there is no supernatural then there is no spirituality. One cannot deny the existence of the supernatural while claiming to hold to spirituality; that’s a contradiction."

I then posted:
"Buddhism is a form of spirituality which does not require belief in, or presuppose the existence of, supernatural entities."

To which you replied:
"No one so far has mentioned “supernatural entities”.
You are another atheist trying to sneak a god or or gods into this discussion. Stop it."

So, I'll re-phrase:
"Buddhism is a form of spirituality which does not require belief in, or presuppose the existence of, the supernatural. Buddhism posits pure phenomenalism and therefore a completely naturalistic means of dealing with eschatological issues."

@divegeester said
Gosh, in a few pages you pave accused me of or inferred that I am being embarrassed of my theism, of pedantry, of hypocrisy, of being shallow, emotionally weak, paranoid and now I’m a rodent.

Amazingly I refrained from alerting any of your snide posts.

@moonbus said
Spirituality, a working definition: any persistent concern, body of writings, teachings, doctrine, practice, or technique (including yoga and meditation) the purpose of which is to move a person from a state of conflict with eschatological issues towards a state of resolution with such issues.

@vals-loeder said
At least he didn't accuse you of being a rat. 😉

I find this topic an interesting read (including the banter). It has made me think how I perceive spirituality and what it means to me. My use of the word (correct or incorrect) is basicly: strive for balance between body and mind.