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@fmf saidIt doesn't fit. 😛
Well, you can stick your "thanks" in your ear.
@fmf saidWell, good job then; in my personal opinion.
On the occasions I have talked people out of terminating a pregnancy, rape was not involved. Nor were they minors.
@kingdavid403 saidMy personal belief is that the fertilization of the egg is the initiation of the development of a human life’s unique personhood.
However, a fertilized egg is not a pregnancy.
@fmf saidWell, a fertilized egg is still not a pregnancy; and, that's a fact. The majority of fertilized eggs (93% or so) never initiate a pregnancy.
My personal belief is that the fertilization of the egg is the initiation of the development of a human life’s unique personhood.
@kingdavid403 saidBut, for me, it is the initiation of life. The way you use the word "pregnancy" does not affect my belief.
Well, a fertilized egg is still not a pregnancy; and, that's a fact.
@fmf saidThe way you use the word "pregnancy"
But, for me, it is the initiation of life. The way you use the word "pregnancy" does not affect my belief.
@kingdavid403 saidI don't care about the word "pregnancy". For me, a fertilized egg is the initiation of life. You can mention the word "pregnancy" as many times as you want, but it has no traction with me.
The way you use the word "pregnancy"
Use the word "pregnancy" ?
One is either pregnant or not.
@kingdavid403 saidIf, for you, life begins at "pregnancy", then so be it.
But, for me, it is the initiation of life.
I caught that; and, I understand.
@fmf saidYeah; well many people swore that the earth was flat for a long long time. In fact, it was a supposed sin and heresy to think otherwise. People that told them the truth that our earth is actually round, this had no traction with flat-earth believers either. However, the earth still was, and is, still round.
I don't care about the word "pregnancy". For me, a fertilized egg is the initiation of life. You can mention the word "pregnancy" as many times as you want, but it has no traction with me.
@kingdavid403 saidIf you think this analogy undermines my personal belief, then you are being very silly. It's especially laughable because you are the ONLY person in this chat [across several threads] who has not yet stated unequivocally when you think life begins.
Yeah; well many people swore that the earth was flat for a long long time.
@kingdavid403 saidI believe that, if it is true that the Abrahamic God has written certain things on the hearts of every human ~ i.e. if that is the source of human consciousness ~ I would imagine that one of the things that He has written there is that life begins at conception.
Yeah; well many people swore that the earth was flat for a long long time. In fact, it was a supposed sin and heresy to think otherwise. People that told them the truth that our earth is actually round, this had no traction with flat-earth believers either. However, the earth still was, and is, still round.
They also use to think, that the sun went around the earth; when in reality, it is the earth that goes around the sun.
@fmf saidHe has written there is that life begins at conception.
I believe that, if it is true that the Abrahamic God has written certain things on the hearts of every human ~ i.e. if that is the source of human consciousness ~ I would imagine that one of the things that He has written there is that life begins at conception.
@kingdavid403 saidWhat difference does it make that I am an agnostic atheist? What has YOUR God figure written in your heart, according to your beliefs, about when life begins?
He has written there is that life begins at conception.
Well Mr. Atheist, then He wrote that most persons will be dead before their body's start to form in the womb then. There's no two ways about it.
@fmf saidIf it begins at "pregnancy" then say so. If it begins as the baby comes out of the birth canal, then say so. If you are not prepared to share what your belief is, then just admit it.
If you think this analogy undermines my personal belief, then you are being very silly. It's especially laughable because you are the ONLY person in this chat [across several threads] who has not yet stated unequivocally when you think life begins.
If it begins at "pregnancy" then say so. If it begins as the baby comes out of the birth canal, then say so. If you are not prepared to share what your belief is, then just admit it.
@fmf saidAt Birth.
What difference does it make that I am an agnostic atheist? What has YOUR God figure written in your heart, according to your beliefs, about when life begins?