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Originally posted by wolfgang59
Do you think Jesus was comparing Peter to a rock
or
making an analogy implying that Peter was as solid as a rock?

Analogies may make a direct comparison but often do not - in the
instance we are talking about I do not compare the FSM with any god.
(For instance I do not compare any of their attributes)

I am using an analogy to describe how atheists feel about gods.
That is crystal clear - or should be - to anyone.
You are simply trying to make up excuses in an attempt to cover your ignorance. I provided you with the dictionary definition of analogy and it is a comparison regardless of what you want to believe. You also claimed comparison is not a synonym for analogy and I showed you that the authorities do not agree with you.

See Roget's 21st Century Thesaurus, Third Edition Copyright © 2013 by the Philip Lief Group.

http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/analogy

Even in British English:
http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english-thesaurus/analogy?showCookiePolicy=true

Read a book!

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Originally posted by RJHinds
You are simply trying to make up excuses in an attempt to cover your ignorance. I provided you with the dictionary definition of analogy and it is a comparison regardless of what you want to believe. You also claimed comparison is not a synonym for analogy and I showed you that the authorities do not agree with you.

See Roget's 21st Century Thesaurus, T ...[text shortened]... sh:
http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english-thesaurus/analogy?showCookiePolicy=true
Stop confusing wolfie with facts.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
You are simply trying to make up excuses in an attempt to cover your ignorance. I provided you with the dictionary definition of analogy and it is a comparison regardless of what you want to believe. You also claimed comparison is not a synonym for analogy and I showed you that the authorities do not agree with you.

See Roget's 21st Century Thesaurus, T ...[text shortened]... sh:
http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english-thesaurus/analogy?showCookiePolicy=true
A dictionary definition gives a list of possible meanings. The link you quote
also suggests "parallel".

Do you think "analogy" and "parallel" have the same meaning?

And you have not addressed my example of Peter & Jesus.

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
A dictionary definition gives a list of possible meanings. The link you quote
also suggests "parallel".

Do you think "analogy" and "parallel" have the same meaning?

And you have not addressed my example of Peter & Jesus.
I am not going to bother with you because you seem to be lacking common sense.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I am not going to bother with you because you seem to be lacking common sense.
I'm sure that it seems that way to you.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
You are simply trying to make up excuses in an attempt to cover your ignorance. I provided you with the dictionary definition of analogy and it is a comparison regardless of what you want to believe. You also claimed comparison is not a synonym for analogy and I showed you that the authorities do not agree with you.

See Roget's 21st Century Thesaurus, T ...[text shortened]... sh:
http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english-thesaurus/analogy?showCookiePolicy=true
Roget's thesaurus tends to give as many synonyms as possible. The synonyms given are not all exact. The word comparison connotes something scientific to me, whereas an analogy would be something more poetic or rhetorical.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I am not going to bother with you because you seem to be lacking common sense.
"It slices! It dices! It makes julienne fries, whatever those are!" - Robin Williams, as Mork


Right-o, Ron. One doesn't use a Cuisinart to make toast.

(And before wolfgang gets his knickers in a twist, yes, I know Cuisinart makes toasters. Sheesh, way to miss the point. Nice to see others taking lessons on forum warfare from FMF. I knew it would happen eventually. And by 'nice' I mean 'bad'.)

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Originally posted by Suzianne
"It slices! It dices! It makes julienne fries, whatever those are!" - Robin Williams, as Mork


Right-o, Ron. One doesn't use a Cuisinart to make toast.

(And before wolfgang gets his knickers in a twist, yes, I know Cuisinart makes toasters. Sheesh, way to miss the point. Nice to see others taking lessons on forum warfare from FMF. I knew it would happen eventually. And by 'nice' I mean 'bad'.)
You seem to be talking with yourself Suzi.
Time to up the meds.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
...no scientist has been able to solve how the image on the Shroud of Turin was formed naturally.
That's because it probably wasn't formed naturally: http://m.livescience.com/9740-shroud-turin-evidence-closer.html


The result is a fabricated shroud that very closely resembles the Shroud of Turin, made with materials and tools available at the time of the shroud's origin. Garlaschelli's reproduction won't, of course, satisfy the true believers. Nor (despite headlines to the contrary) does it conclusively prove that the Shroud of Turin is a fake. It does, however, disprove a claim almost as important: that the image on the shroud is scientifically unexplainable, and could not have been made by human hands.

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby (OP)
"a result not the means"

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household [if they also believe]". Acts 16:31 Good works: a result not the means of salvation. Why risk flawed logic or rationalization on your eternal address? We're either for or against the person and substitutionary work of Christ [His reconciliation of us to God the Father]. Back in October, 2014."
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Nice to be here again despite medical challenges. My thanks to each of you who have kept this seminal thread topic alive.

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby (OP)

Nice to be here again despite medical challenges.
Nice for you - not us.

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
Nice for you - not us.
Appreciate your candor, wolfgang. I miss SwissGambit who hasn't been around since April, 2014. Hope he's well.