I know supernatural, but for those who choose not to believe, they just won't. So what is your point? We know you don't believe, or at least so you say. But I find it interesting, that you sonhouse, would spend so much time arguing here on this spirituality forum, of what exists or doesn't.
Originally posted by PudgenikSo why do theists post here, the same could be said for them. They believe. End of story. Right?
I know supernatural, but for those who choose not to believe, they just won't. So what is your point? We know you don't believe, or at least so you say. But I find it interesting, that you sonhouse, would spend so much time arguing here on this spirituality forum, of what exists or doesn't.
Originally posted by sonhouseYou have it backwards.
You make allusions to justify a god being jealous but my solid position is and always will be that a god would be so far above us that there would be no such thing as a human attribute like jealousy. It just convinces me ever more deeply these attributes are just made up by men because that's what they think other men and women would agree a god might have such emotions.
Giving human attributes to a god just denigrates the god.
God loves us and gave us HIS attributes. We are made in HIS image.
Originally posted by sonhouseI post here because i like talking about spirituality and everything that has to do with it.
So why do theists post here, the same could be said for them. They believe. End of story. Right?
You, of all people know where i stand. I do not know you physically, but i know you spiritually. As i told you before, when you get to heaven, my chess board will be waiting. 🙂 But i really doubt that you'll want to play. So much to see and do. Come to Elijah's mountain, you'll find me there too.
Originally posted by PudgenikPlaying chess in heaven does seem like a stupid thing to want to do.
I post here because i like talking about spirituality and everything that has to do with it.
You, of all people know where i stand. I do not know you physically, but i know you spiritually. As i told you before, when you get to heaven, my chess board will be waiting. 🙂 But i really doubt that you'll want to play. So much to see and do. Come to Elijah's mountain, you'll find me there too.
Originally posted by RJHindsI wouldn't say it is stupid, after all chess is a lot of fun. But heaven is beyond your imagination. That is something i think the J W's loose out in with their limitations in faith. Why in the world would you want to inherit the earth after you die. New earth, yes, but it is still the same earth.
Playing chess in heaven does seem like a stupid thing to want to do.
Originally posted by Pudgenik“Blessed are the poor in spirit,
I wouldn't say it is stupid, after all chess is a lot of fun. But heaven is beyond your imagination. That is something i think the J W's loose out in with their limitations in faith. Why in the world would you want to inherit the earth after you die. New earth, yes, but it is still the same earth.
For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn,
For they shall be comforted.
Blessed are the meek,
For they shall inherit the earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
For they shall be filled.
Blessed are the merciful,
For they shall obtain mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart,
For they shall see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers,
For they shall be called sons of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake,
For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
(MATTHEW 5:3-10 NKJV)
PERHAPS THEY WANT TO BE THE MEEK ONES.
Originally posted by PudgenikTaking this argument to its logical conclusion one would choose a religion with the most rewards. Heaven or New Earth? Angels or 72 virgins?
That is something i think the J W's loose out in with their limitations in faith. Why in the world would you want to inherit the earth after you die. New earth, yes, but it is still the same earth.
I don't know about 72 virgins. They mean nothing to me. I would rather have God and those saved by Him as my brothers and sisters. I could have women now, which include the carnal "you-know-what" with them, but it is all vain and treacherous. I don't need women for sensual things. And it is the same for women toward men.
I need God! And I need His salvation!
If there are no new virgins in heaven, so what? I need God!
Furthermore, Christ said that there is not marriage or the giving of marriage in the future for Christians. Who needs the carnal? I don't.
Isn't there more to "life" forever, than this hateful, empty world! I would rather have God and all the spiritual gifts that He provides.
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Matthew 22: 28-30
Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.
Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
Sonhouse and All Others,
It is true that people who are saved by Christ will be so in combination with faith. According to the bible, it is by faith that God is pleased. That applies to all of us, which includes you too. Don't wait until you die, and stay dead, to try for eternal life. It will be too late then.
King James Version
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Hebrews 11: 6
But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Romans 1: 16, 17
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.