30 Jan 17
Originally posted by twhiteheadYou reject design.
Why are they weaker? Give an actual argument instead of stubbornly repeating the same falsehoods over and over and over.
[b]Whether you admit it or not, your atheism is so close minded that you will not even allow room for design.
Whether you admit it or not, you have repeatedly demonstrated your extreme close mindedness in refusing to accept that ...[text shortened]... u try to hold on the more of a fool and a despicable liar you look. Your theism is blinding you.[/b]
I reject accident and probability.
Does science have an actual 'valid' option.....no.
Keep guessing. It's laughable.
30 Jan 17
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Originally posted by chaney3What makes you say that? As I said, your religion has blinded you so much that you are incapable of hearing anything I say.
You reject design.
I reject accident and probability.
So, if I throw a dice, then you are saying God decides what number it lands on?
Does science have an actual 'valid' option.....no.
Huh? At least try and use English.
Keep guessing. It's laughable.
Yes, you are becoming more and more of a joke in this thread. Your religion is making you into a fool. Seriously, try and read peoples posts instead of running your mouth because you think everyone else is an atheist and therefore anything they say must be wrong.
I am still waiting for an honest response to my questions in earlier posts. I see you intend to simply forget them.
30 Jan 17
Originally posted by chaney3Why do you ask?
Other than accident or probability, can you offer a rational explanation of how the moon, sun and earth are positioned where they are?
If I have no explanation whatsoever, it won't change the fact that your previous post was a blatant lie.
You cannot. So far, your 'reasons' are much less plausible than design.
I haven't given any reasons, so that is not surprising.
30 Jan 17
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Originally posted by chaney3Your inability to read peoples posts is astounding. Your close mindedness is squeezing all intelligence out of you. You are so desperate to prove design that you cannot see what is right in front of your face.
So far, your 'reasons' are much less plausible than design.
I have not given any reasons whatsoever for the positions of the moon earth and sun. What I have done is asked you to explain why you think their current locations are special. You have not given any explanation. This is because you don't know. You started this thread because you read something on a creationist website that said that the positions were special and you swallowed it hook line and sinker and ran over here all excited. When it turned out that your source didn't know the first thing about eclipses and neither do you, rather than man up and admit it you are attempting to just play the stubborn fool.
I can accept ignorance, but your dishonesty is despicable.
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30 Jan 17
Originally posted by chaney3Is your scientific stupidity by accident or design?!
Other than accident or probability, can you offer a rational explanation of how the moon, sun and earth are positioned where they are?
You cannot. So far, your 'reasons' are much less plausible than design.
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Originally posted by chaney3No, they are much STRONGER than 'design' here because we have evidence of accidents and probabilities of sizes and positions of such things. We know that many physical processes in nature appear random while at the same time conforming to natural laws, which we also have evidence for, that allow that randomness. In contrast, we have NO evidence that Goddidit.
[b]As far as the sizes and positions of the moon, sun and earth, science has offered nothing in the "how" except for two things: accident or probability. These two options are much weaker in theory than design./b]
And why call the proven facts "options"? That implies you think you can reject these facts, which you cannot validly do. So "options" is the totally wrong word here.
30 Jan 17
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeYou have offered nothing scientific. Just guessing, accidents and probabilities. You don't have a clue how the earth, moon and sun came to be positioned where they are.
Is your scientific stupidity by accident or design?!
Design is far more reasonable than what you "science forum scientists" have offered.
Your only contribution thus far has been Elvis burnt toast.
I rest my case.
30 Jan 17
Originally posted by robbebopSure, some people do believe the universe is fully deterministic and others believe it is fully controlled by God. The only problem with the latter view, is any claim that you can see design becomes highly suspect because you should also see design in the roll of a die.
"God is not playing at dice"
Couldn't resist 😉
But I would like to know what Chaney believes about dice, but I rather doubt he will say given his behaviour so far and failure to answer most questions.
30 Jan 17
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Originally posted by chaney3As expected, you run away rather than admit you were wrong. Typical closed minded theist behaviour. Too scared to actually discuss science in a rational manner.
I rest my case.
Your faith is weak.
Edit: I am NOT saying that all theists are close minded (although it is remarkably common in the spirituality forum).
30 Jan 17
Originally posted by twhiteheadThe roll of dice, or Elvis burnt toast, or coin tosses may have a probabilty factor, but they will not produce life.
As expected, you run away rather than admit you were wrong. Typical closed minded theist behaviour. Too scared to actually discuss science in a rational manner.
Your faith is weak.
Your probabilty exercises are good only on paper, but not worth more in real life.
The outcome of the sun, earth and moon have much more consequence than a "roll of the die".
That's all you have? Burnt toast and dice to explain the cosmos?
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30 Jan 17
Originally posted by chaney3The moon exists due to a massive planetary impact when the Earth was still 'young'. (Debris thrown up and formed by the effects of gravity). How does design play a part here?
You have offered nothing scientific. Just guessing, accidents and probabilities. You don't have a clue how the earth, moon and sun came to be positioned where they are.
Design is far more reasonable than what you "science forum scientists" have offered.
Your only contribution thus far has been Elvis burnt toast.
I rest my case.
'Design!' is merely the cry of a weak mind who hasn't even bothered to follow the scientific knowledge that is out there. (Or simply doesn't understand it).