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Energy Difference of the Richter MagnitudeScale

0.2 is ~ 2 times the energy
0.4 is ~ 4 times the energy
0.6 is ~ 8 times the energy
1.0 is ~ 33 times the energy
2.0 is ~ 1000 times the energy

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:dGOxjWYGJC0J:flightline.highline.edu/cwhittington/G107/Notes/Quake4-F09.pdf+Richter+earthquake+size+differences+comparison&cd=16&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=nz&source=www.google.co.nz

0.1 ~1.5
0.2 is ~ 2 times the energy
0.3 ~3
0.4 is ~ 4 times the energy
0.5 ~5.5
0.6 is ~ 8 times the energy
0.7 ~11
0.8 ~16
0.9 ~22
1.0 is ~ 33 times the energy
1.1 ~46
1.2 ~66
1.5 ~180
2.0 is ~ 1000 times the energy
Date - UTC - Time Latitude Longitude Magnitude Fatalities Region
1902/06/11 05: 50.00 148.00 8.0 Sea of Okhotsk 1
1903/01/04 05:07 -20.00 -175.00 8.0 Tonga 1
1903/08/11 04:32 36.36 22.97 8.3 southern Greece 3
1905/07/09 09:40 49.0 99.0 8.4 Mongolia 4
1905/07/23 02:46 49.0 98.0 8.4 central Mongolia 4
1906/01/31 15:36 1.0 -81.5 8.8 1000 Colombia-Ecuador 16
1906/08/17 00:40 -33.0 -72.0 8.2 3882 Valparaiso, Chile 2
1907/10/21 04:23 38.00 69.00 8.0 Afghanistan 1
1908/12/12 12:08 -14.0 -78.0 8.2 off the coast of central Peru 2
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1911/06/15 14:26 28.0 130.0 8.1 12 Ryukyu Islands, Japan 1.5
1914/05/26 14:22 -2. 137. 8.0 West New Guinea 1
1915/05/01 05:00 47. 155. 8.0 Kurile Islands 1
1917/05/01 18:26 -29.0 -177.0 8.0 Kermadec Islands, New Zealand 1
1917/06/26 05:49 -15.0 -173.0 8.4 Tonga 4
1918/08/15 12:18 5.653 123.563 8.0 50 Celebes Sea 1
1918/09/07 17:16 45.5 151.5 8.2 Kuril Islands 2
1919/04/30 07:17 -19.823 -172.215 8.2 Tonga region 2
<13.5>
1920/06/05 04:21 23.5 122.0 8.0 Taiwan region 1
1920/09/20 14:39 -20.0 168.0 8.0 Loyalty Islands 1
1922/11/11 04:32 -28.553 -70.755 8.5 Chile-Argentina Border 5.5
1923/02/03 16:01 54.0 161.0 8.5 Kamchatka 5.5
1924/04/14 16:20 7.023 125.954 8.3 Mindanao, Philippines 3
1928/06/17 03:19 16.33 -96.7 8.0 Oaxaca, Mexico 1
<17>
1931/08/10 21:18 47.1 89.8 8.0 5 northern Xinjiang, China 1
1932/06/03 10:36 19.84 -103.99 8.1 Jalisco, Mexico 1.5
1933/03/02 17:31 39.22 144.62 8.4 2990 Sanriku, Japan 4
1934/01/15 08:43 27.55 87.09 8.1 10700 Bihar, India 1.5
1938/02/01 19:04 -5.05 131.62 8.5 Banda Sea 5.5
1938/11/10 20:18 55.33 -158.37 8.2 Shumagin Islands, Alaska 2
1939/04/30 02:55 -10.5 158.5 8.0 Solomon Islands 1
<16.5>
1940/05/24 16:33 -10.5 -77.0 8.2 near the Coast of central Peru 2
1941/11/25 18:03 37.171 -18.960 8.2 Azores-Cape St. Vincent Ridge 2
1942/08/24 22:50 -15.0 -76.0 8.2 30 Off the coast of central Peru 2
1943/04/06 16:07 -30.75 -72.0 8.2 18 off the coast of Coquimbo, Chile 2
1944/12/07 04:35 33.75 136.00 8.1 1223 Tonankai, Japan 1.5
1945/11/27 21:57 24.5 63.0 8.0 4000 off the coast of Pakistan 1
1946/04/01 12:28 52.75 -163.50 8.1 165 Unimak Islands, Alaska 1.5
1946/08/04 17:51 19.25 -69.00 8.0 100 Dominican Republic 1
1946/12/20 19:19 32.5 134.5 8.1 1330 Nankaido, Japan 1.5
1948/01/24 17:46 10.5 122.0 8.2 72 Panay, Philippines 1
1949/08/22 04:01 53.62 -133.27 8.1 Queen Charlotte Island, B.C., Canada 1.5
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1950/08/15 14:09 28.5 96.5 8.6 1526 Assam-Tibet 8
1952/03/04 01:22 42.5 143.0 8.1 31 Hokkaido, Japan region 1.5
1952/11/04 16:58 52.76 160.06 9.0 Kamchatka, Russia 33
1957/03/09 14:22 51.56 -175.39 8.6 Andreanof Islands, Alaska 8
1957/12/04 03:37 45.15 99.21 8.1 Gobi-Altai, Mongolia 1.5
1958/11/06 22:58 44.329 148.623 8.3 Kuril Islands 3
1959/05/04 07:15 53.351 159.645 8.2 1 near the east coast of Kamchatka 2
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1960/05/22 19:11 -38.29 -73.05 9.5 1655 Chile 180
1963/10/13 05:17 44.9 149.6 8.5 Kuril Islands 5.5
1964/03/28 03:36 61.02 -147.65 9.2 125 Prince William Sound, Alaska 66
1965/02/04 05:01 51.21 -178.50 8.7 Rat Islands, Alaska 11
1966/10/17 21:41 -10.807 -78.684 8.1 125 near the coast of central Peru 1.5
1968/05/16 00:49 40.903 143.346 8.2 47 off the east coast of Honshu, Japan 2
1969/08/11 21:27 43.478 147.815 8.2 Kuril Islands 2
<278>
1970/07/31 17:08 -1.49 -72.56 8.0 Colombia 1
1971/01/10 07:17 -3.132 139.697 8.1 Papua, Indonesia 1.5
1974/10/03 14:21 -12.254 -77.524 8.1 78 near the coast of central Peru 1.5
1976/08/16 16:11 6.292 124.090 8.0 8000 Mindanao, Philippines 1
1977/06/22 12:08 -22.878 -175.900 8.1 Tonga region 1.5
1977/08/19 06:08 -11.085 118.464 8.3 100 south of Sumbawa, Indonesia 3
1979/12/12 07:59 1.598 -79.358 8.1 600 near the coast of Ecuador 1.5
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1985/03/03 22:47 -33.135 -71.871 8.0 177 offshore Valparaiso, Chile 1
1985/09/19 13:17 18.190 -102.533 8.0 9500 Michoacan, Mexico 1
1986/05/07 22:47 51.520 -174.776 8.0 Andreanof Islands, Aleutian Islands, Alaska 1
1989/05/23 10:54 -52.341 160.568 8.1 Macquarie Island region 1.5
<4.5>
1994/06/09 00:33 -13.841 -67.553 8.2 5 La Paz, Bolivia 2
1994/10/04 13:22 43.773 147.321 8.3 11 Kuril Islands 3
1995/07/30 05:11 -23.340 -70.294 8.0 3 Near Coast of Northern Chile 1
1995/10/09 15:35 19.055 -104.205 8.0 49 Near Coast of Jalisco, Mexico 1
1996/02/17 05:59 -0.891 136.952 8.2 166 Irian Jaya region, Indonesia 2
1998/03/25 03:12 -62.877 149.527 8.1 Balleny Islands region 1.5
<10.5>
2000/11/16 04:54 -3.980 152.169 8.0 2 New Ireland region, Papua New Guinea 1
2001/06/23 20:33 -16.264 -73.641 8.4 75 near the coast of southern Peru 4
2003/09/25 19:50 41.815 143.910 8.3 Hokkaido, Japan region 3
2004/12/23 14:59 -49.312 161.345 8.1 north of Macquarie Island 1.5
2004/12/26 00:58 3.295 95.982 9.1 227898 off the west coast of northern Sumatra 46
2005/03/28 16:09 2.074 97.013 8.6 1313 Northern Sumatra, Indonesia 8
2006/05/03 15:26 -20.187 -174.123 8.0 Tonga 1
2006/11/15 11:14 46.592 153.226 8.3 Kuril Islands 3
2007/01/13 04:23:21 46.243 154.524 8.1 East of the Kuril Islands 1.5
2007/04/01 20:39:58 -8.466 157.043 8.1 34 Solomon Islands 1.5
2007/08/15 23:40:57 -13.386 -76.603 8.0 650 Near the Coast of Central Peru 1
2007/09/12 11:10:26 -4.438 101.367 8.5 25 Southern Sumatra, Indonesia 5.5
2009/09/29 17:48:10 -15.489 -172.095 8.1 192 Samoa Islands region 1.5
<78.5>
2010/02/27 06:34:14 -35.846 -72.719 8.8 577 Offshore Maule, Chile 16
2011/03/11 05:46:23 38.322 142.369 9.0 28050 Near the East Coast of Honshu, Japan 33
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So.... decade/number/energy

1900 - 9 <34>
1910 - 8 <13.5>
1920 - 6 <17>
1930 - 7 <16.5>
1940 - 11 <17>
1950 - 7 <57>
1960 - 7 <278>
1970 - 7 <11>
1980 - 4 <4.5>
1990 - 6 <10.5>
2000 - 13 <78.5>
2010-2011 -2 <49>

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Logarithmic scales don't work like that. An earthquake of magnitude 8.5 actually releases about 5.6 times more energy than an 8.0 earthquake. For an 8.1 earthquake the factor is about 1.4.

By the way, there are treatments available for paranoid/delusional disorders.
btw.. isn't it funny when your paranoid delusions end up being correct.πŸ˜›.

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Originally posted by Kostenuik
Well you want to study the 0.05% of largest pigs, so shouldn't the largest of the large get more points in their favour? If 1 whole point is equal to 31.6 times the energy then it would take that many pigs at the lowest level to equal the top one.
More points? What do you mean by points?

The scale being logarithmic or not is irrelevant, what matters is the underlying distribution. They would still be the top 0.05% whether you rescale them or not.

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Originally posted by Kostenuik
Energy Difference of the Richter MagnitudeScale

0.2 is ~ 2 times the energy
0.4 is ~ 4 times the energy
0.6 is ~ 8 times the energy
1.0 is ~ 33 times the energy
2.0 is ~ 1000 times the energy

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:dGOxjWYGJC0J:flightline.highline.edu/cwhittington/G107/Notes/Quake4-F09.pdf+Richter+earthquake+size+di ...[text shortened]... <278>
1970 - 7 <11>
1980 - 4 <4.5>
1990 - 6 <10.5>
2000 - 13 <78.5>
2010-2011 -2 <49>
Your analysis is on a list filtered by high fatalities
by contrast, here is the list of earthquakes by magnitude for 2010:
7 2010
7 2010
8.8 2010
6.3 2010
6.1 2010
6.9 2010
7.2 2010
7.8 2010
6.9 2010
5.6 2010
7.2 2010
7.1 2010
7.5 2010
7.0, 2010
6.2 2010
7.3 2010
7.3 2010
7.6 2010
7.4 2010
7.3 2010
7.1 2010
7.1 2010
7.7 2010
5.4 2010
6.5 2010
7.4 2010
7.3 2010

Try:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_21st-century_earthquakes
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_20th-century_earthquakes

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I used:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_21st-century_earthquakes
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_20th-century_earthquakes


and found:

Sum of Percent of energy of all significant quakes
Decade Total
1900 4.49%
1910 0.17%
1920 3.90%
1930 2.04%
1940 1.96%
1950 9.37%
1960 48.10%
1970 0.87%
1980 0.90%
1990 1.52%
2000 17.49%
2010 9.19%

Given that the 2010 decade has less than 20% of it's time elapsed it is certainly off to a big start.

To give it a fair chance I shifted it along two years... eg defining a decade as from 2002 until 2012

Sum of Percent of energy of all significant quakes
Decade Total
1892 0.04%
1902 4.54%
1912 3.76%
1922 1.35%
1932 1.35%
1942 8.90%
1952 35.65%
1962 14.89%
1972 0.59%
1982 1.07%
1992 4.00%
2002 23.86%

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Originally posted by Palynka
More points? What do you mean by points?

The scale being logarithmic or not is irrelevant, what matters is the underlying distribution. They would still be the top 0.05% whether you rescale them or not.
More value. A 9.0 earthquake should hold a energy release value 31.6 times as large as an 8.0. What I have done is taken the top x percent and assigned values based on the amount of energy released where 8.0 = 1 and increses proportionally to the logarithmic scale. I haven't looked at the amount of quakes that have happened in each decade, as some are smaller then others, but the combined energy value of each decade to see where changes in total energy of the top x percent have occured from year to year... decade to decade.

I'm not sure what you mean by underlying distribution.

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Thanks flex. Very similar results.

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Originally posted by flexmore
Your analysis is on a list filtered by high fatalities
by contrast, here is the list of earthquakes by magnitude for 2010:
That list too is filtered by high fatalities. All quakes below 7.0 on that list are only included based on fatalities. There were a lot more sub 7.0 quakes in that year.

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Originally posted by Kostenuik
More value. A 9.0 earthquake should hold a energy release value 31.6 times as large as an 8.0. What I have done is taken the top x percent and assigned values based on the amount of energy released where 8.0 = 1 and increses proportionally to the logarithmic scale. I haven't looked at the amount of quakes that have happened in each decade, as some are smal ...[text shortened]... om year to year... decade to decade.

I'm not sure what you mean by underlying distribution.
It would still be the same earthquakes. You don't seem to understand what a quantile is.

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Originally posted by Kostenuik
Thanks flex. Very similar results.
I see that the decade with the largest energy release was followed by the decade with the second lowest energy release (and the lowest one was 1910s when it's bound to be understated due to smaller number of measuring stations).

It all points to it being simply the result of randomness in a small sample.

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Originally posted by Palynka
I see that the decade with the largest energy release was followed by the decade with the second lowest energy release (and the lowest one was 1910s when it's bound to be understated due to smaller number of measuring stations).

It all points to it being simply the result of randomness in a small sample.
The wiki page is wrong in the seventies. It has only one 8 or greater earthquake recorded yet on my list it has seven. It is missing six >8 earthquakes. Btw.. my page isn't filtered for fatalities. It is ... Magnitude 8 and Greater Earthquakes Since 1900
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqarchives/year/mag8/magnitude8_1900_date.php

It still shows the similar trends as the 1910's, 70's, 80's & 90's all low. and more importantly around the sixties and begining of this century extremely high.

I'm not sure the amount of measuring stations would make a difference to the largest of quakes as multiple stations around the earth measure the individual quake to plot it's location and size. In 1931 there were 350 measuring stations compared to around 8000 today so the smaller quakes would definetly be faulty but large one's one would think would still be sound. http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/topics/increase_in_earthquakes.php

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Originally posted by Kostenuik
The wiki page is wrong in the seventies. It has only one 8 or greater earthquake recorded yet on my list it has seven. It is missing six >8 earthquakes. Btw.. my page isn't filtered for fatalities. It is ... Magnitude 8 and Greater Earthquakes Since 1900
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqarchives/year/mag8/magnitude8_1900_date.php

It still shows ...[text shortened]... ould still be sound. http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/topics/increase_in_earthquakes.php
Again you repeat what you said like a parrot and completely ignore what I said.

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Originally posted by flexmore
I used:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_21st-century_earthquakes
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_20th-century_earthquakes


and found:

Sum of Percent of energy of all significant quakes
Decade Total
1900 4.49%
1910 0.17%
1920 3.90%
1930 2.04%
1940 1.96%
1950 9.37%
1960 48.10%
1970 0.87%
1980 0.90%
1990 1.52% ...[text shortened]... 32 1.35%
1942 8.90%
1952 35.65%
1962 14.89%
1972 0.59%
1982 1.07%
1992 4.00%
2002 23.86%
Sum of Percent of energy of all significant quakes
Decade Total
1900 4.49% 5.8

1910 0.17% 2.3

1920 3.90% 2.9

1930 2.04% 2.8

1940 1.96% 2.9

1950 9.37% 9.7

1960 48.10% 47.4

1970 0.87% 1.9

1980 0.90% 0.8

1990 1.52% 1.8

2000 17.49% 13.4

2010 9.19% 8.3

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Originally posted by Palynka
Again you repeat what you said like a parrot and completely ignore what I said.
Guess what. There isn't anymore earthquakes that you can use so be happy with what you have got.

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Originally posted by Palynka
I see that the decade with the largest energy release was followed by the decade with the second lowest energy release (and the lowest one was 1910s when it's bound to be understated due to smaller number of measuring stations).

It all points to it being simply the result of randomness in a small sample.
O.K. I see what you are trying to say now.

So x years pressure builds up on the earth's plates but doesnt release and then all of a sudden it releases it's energy and gets it out of the way after which point there isn't any plates liable to cause any quakes and the cycle starts anew. Exactly like an earthquake in slow motion but over a decade or more in time and then calm. So what I am saying is if you are in the middle of an outbreak(decade) of some of the largest earthquakes... the possibilities that more will happen is high. Also as you have pointed out... the after-effects will not be more earthquakes but calm as those plates have used up all their energies. I do not see that as random.