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apathist

looking for loot

Spirituality

25 Jan 17

apathist

looking for loot

western colorado

Joined: 05 Feb 11
Moves: 9664

25 Jan 17

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A deep and divisive subject.

Should a woman have a right to choose? What are the boundaries, and why?

What about the man? What rights for him?

leunammi

Joined: 28 Aug 16
Moves: 354

25 Jan 17

Originally posted by apathist
A deep and divisive subject.

Should a woman have a right to choose? What are the boundaries, and why?

What about the man? What rights for him?

What do you think?

apathist

looking for loot

western colorado

Joined: 05 Feb 11
Moves: 9664

25 Jan 17

Originally posted by leunammi
What do you think?

aargh I specifically avoided that. I have strong opinions but don't want to set them in stone, was hoping to learn, to see other sides. So leunammi (nice name, what is the meaning for you?) what do you think?

divegeester

Joined: 16 Feb 08
Moves: 116984

25 Jan 17

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Originally posted by apathist
A deep and divisive subject.

Should a woman have a right to choose? What are the boundaries, and why?

What about the man? What rights for him?

Short thread.

Fetchmyjunk

Garbage disposal

Garbage dump

Joined: 20 Apr 16
Moves: 2040

25 Jan 17

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Originally posted by apathist
A deep and divisive subject.

Should a woman have a right to choose? What are the boundaries, and why?

What about the man? What rights for him?

If you believe life is not precious and has no intrinsic value and is not God-given, we will be talking past each other. So maybe that framework should first be established.

karoly aczel

The Axe man

Brisbane,QLD

Joined: 11 Apr 09
Moves: 102882

25 Jan 17

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Originally posted by apathist
A deep and divisive subject.

Should a woman have a right to choose? What are the boundaries, and why?

What about the man? What rights for him?

Nice.
It's a womans choice first and foremost, right?

karoly aczel

The Axe man

Brisbane,QLD

Joined: 11 Apr 09
Moves: 102882

25 Jan 17

Originally posted by divegeester
Short thread.

that's cause twigthead, Peoper Knob, and others not being around.
Like I said in my "spirituality forum" thread, people are dissillusionioned with this forum.

Ghost of a Duke

The Ghost Chamber

Joined: 14 Mar 15
Moves: 28734

25 Jan 17

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
If you believe life is not precious and has no intrinsic value and is not God-given, we will be talking past each other. So maybe that framework should first be established.

I do not believe life is God given, but still view life as precious and with intrinsic value. Your repeated assumption that life without God is meaningless is itself, meaningless.

Fetchmyjunk

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Garbage dump

Joined: 20 Apr 16
Moves: 2040

25 Jan 17

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
I do not believe life is God given, but still view life as precious and with intrinsic value. Your repeated assumption that life without God is meaningless is itself, meaningless.

Would you say the ingredients of a chemical soup are also precious and have intrinsic value?

avalanchethecat

Not actually a cat

The Flat Earth

Joined: 09 Apr 10
Moves: 14988

25 Jan 17

Originally posted by apathist
A deep and divisive subject.

Should a woman have a right to choose? What are the boundaries, and why?

What about the man? What rights for him?

I think the complexity of the subject means that one cannot legislate so easily as it appears many people would like.

Suzianne

Misfit Queen

Isle of Misfit Toys

Joined: 08 Aug 03
Moves: 36693

25 Jan 17

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
I do not believe life is God given, but still view life as precious and with intrinsic value. Your repeated assumption that life without God is meaningless is itself, meaningless.

So life with God is "meaningless"?

No, I must disagree.

leunammi

Joined: 28 Aug 16
Moves: 354

25 Jan 17

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Originally posted by avalanchethecat
I think the complexity of the subject means that one cannot legislate so easily as it appears many people would like.

I think the tragedy of abortion at its root is nothing more than homage to Moloch. I am not saying anybody is worshiping Moloch, we have been blinded for sure but abortion is a personal sacrifice no matter how you look at it.

Eladar

Joined: 12 Jul 08
Moves: 13814

25 Jan 17

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Originally posted by leunammi
I think the tragedy of abortion at its root is nothing more than homage to Moloch. I am not saying anybody is worshiping Moloch, we have been blinded for sure but abortion is a personal sacrifice no matter how you look at it.

You mean the sacrifice of a person.

whodey

Joined: 02 Jan 06
Moves: 12857

25 Jan 17

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Originally posted by apathist
A deep and divisive subject.

Should a woman have a right to choose? What are the boundaries, and why?

What about the man? What rights for him?

Your belief on the subject boils down to belief in God.

Do you believe man is simply a glorified animal to be treated as such or a being made in the image of God that is distinct from the animal kingdom with natural rights?

That is the dividing line.

whodey

Joined: 02 Jan 06
Moves: 12857

25 Jan 17

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Originally posted by Suzianne
So life with God is "meaningless"?

No, I must disagree.

For an atheist, life only has meaning if we assign it meaning.

Otherwise it is meaningless.