23 Feb 21
Literature only speaks to those who have intelligence to understand and appreciate it, and who understand the language it is written in.
Music is available to anyone and understandable on a visceral level. It speaks to anyone who hears it, even some animals. It penetrates the barrier of language.
23 Feb 21
@very-rusty saidMusic can transcend words.
People claim a picture can say a 1000 words! 😉
-VR
@very-rusty saidIt's far more difficult. A picture is limited by some of the same constraints as language. Music is not.
A picture can't transcend words is what your saying?
-VR
You see a painting of a red balloon. You think, "It's a red balloon." There must be a translation. Music is injected directly to the feeling centers of the brain, bypassing the translation pathways. What color is clarinet music? What is the shape of piano music?
23 Feb 21
@suzianne saidI was thinking of a picture with much more in it than a red balloon. Try thinking bigger with more in the picture Suzie Q!!! 😉
It's far more difficult. A picture is limited by some of the same constraints as language. Music is not.
You see a painting of a red balloon. You think, "It's a red balloon." There must be a translation. Music is injected directly to the feeling centers of the brain, bypassing the translation pathways. What color is clarinet music? What is the shape of piano music?
-VR
23 Feb 21
@very-rusty saidTrying to keep it simple for you, Rusty, but if you want to argue, then enjoy yourself.
I was thinking of a picture with much more in it than a red balloon. Try thinking bigger with more in the picture Suzie Q!!! 😉
-VR
23 Feb 21
@suzianne saidNo you didn't understand what I was talking about if your are comparing what I was saying to the color of a balloon! 🙂 Who is arguing, why must you turn every conversation into something it is not?
Trying to keep it simple for you, Rusty, but if you want to argue, then enjoy yourself.
-VR
23 Feb 21
@very-rusty saidNever a truer word spoken.
No you didn't understand what I was talking about
23 Feb 21
@very-rusty saidEven a painting like Bosch's The Garden of Earthly Delights, with an amazing amount of detail and subject matter, requires translation, even more so than the simple red balloon. One must grasp it in its entirety and understand how its components come together to tell the story. To tell the story. Music is not like this. Music is felt on an entirely different level than any written word, or translated picture. As I said, it transcends words.
I was thinking of a picture with much more in it than a red balloon. Try thinking bigger with more in the picture Suzie Q!!! 😉
-VR
@suzianne saidYes Suzie Q, but you get the decision on the picture and what it is telling you. You may see a picture one way someone else in a different way. It is the same with music, some of us may like certain kinds of music where others don't. It is all a matter of choice and taste.
Even a painting like Bosch's The Garden of Earthly Delights, with an amazing amount of detail and subject matter, requires translation, even more so than the simple red balloon. One must grasp it in its entirety and understand how its components come together to tell the story. To tell the story. Music is not like this. Music is felt on an entirely different level than any written word, or translated picture. As I said, it transcends words.
-VR
23 Feb 21
@very-rusty saidThis is not debatable. But listen to what you're saying. "What it is telling you." It is telling you something. It enters the brain in an entirely different way than music. It requires a translation to make sense of it. This makes it inferior. Music requires no such translation to be understandable. Music goes directly to the feeling centers of the brain, to the areas of emotion, and far faster than the translation pathways allow the written word in.
Yes Suzie Q, but you get the decision on the picture and what it is telling you. You may see a picture one way someone else in a different way. It is the same with music, some of us may like certain kinds of music where others don't. It is all a matter of choice and taste.
-VR
23 Feb 21
@suzianne saidYou say it needs no debate but keep debating it?
This is not debatable. But listen to what you're saying. "What it is telling you." It is telling you something. It enters the brain in an entirely different way than music. It requires a translation to make sense of it. This makes it inferior. Music requires no such translation to be understandable. Music goes directly to the feeling centers of the brain, to the areas of emotion, and far faster than the translation pathways allow the written word in.
The music may come across to you one way and to someone else entirely different the same as a picture does. 😉
-VR
23 Feb 21
@very-rusty saidYou're forcing me to lose interest in trying to convince you.
You say it needs no debate but keep debating it?
The music may come across to you one way and to someone else entirely different the same as a picture does. 😉
-VR
You don't get it and maybe you never will.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go listen to Grieg's Piano Concerto in A minor.