07 Aug 11
Originally posted by AThousandYoungNear the top of the list are some small oil-producing states and tax havens.
NO WE MUST BE #1 ðŸ˜
1 Luxembourg 108,832
2 Norway 84,444
3 Qatar 76,168
4 Switzerland 67,246
5 United Arab Emirates 59,717
6 Denmark 56,147
7 Australia 55,590
8 Sweden 48,875
9 United States 47,284
10 Netherlands 47,172
07 Aug 11
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Originally posted by KazetNagorraYou're lucky you're below us. You've just given us targets. Time to make them asplode!
Near the top of the list are some small oil-producing states and tax havens.
1 Luxembourg 108,832
2 Norway 84,444
3 Qatar 76,168
4 Switzerland 67,246
5 United Arab Emirates 59,717
6 Denmark 56,147
7 Australia 55,590
8 Sweden 48,875
9 United States 47,284
10 Netherlands 47,172
EDIT - Worked for us in the 20th century...
07 Aug 11
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Originally posted by KazetNagorraWe are still suffering from economic problems and until those problems are fixed and we see the kind of growth that we're used to seeing(I think somewhere around 5% ), our economy will be 'sucky'.
Well, it could be fifth or so, with some reforms, but 9th is still very good especially considering the population of the US (China, for example, is 94th on the same 2010 IMF list), and hardly "sucky".
In any case, I still don't see anyone talking about funding the war. It is something I guess most people don't wish to talk about.
07 Aug 11
Originally posted by EladarExpecting 5% annual growth as a norm is bizarre and, frankly, stupid.
We are still suffering from economic problems and until those problems are fixed and we see the kind of growth that we're used to seeing(I think somewhere around 5% ), our economy will be 'sucky'.
In any case, I still don't see anyone talking about funding the war. It is something I guess most people don't wish to talk about.
The GOP currently seems rather opposed to funding expenses.
07 Aug 11
The average US quarterly growth rate from 1947 to 2011 is 3.28%, so I don't see how a 5% growth rate is out of the question.
I don't think that the GOP would be against raising money to fund the war. The GOP would lose a lot of support if they were to oppose a tax to pay for the war.
07 Aug 11
Originally posted by EladarAnd yet many GOP lawmakers who vehemently opposed doing exactly that got voted into office in 2010.
The average US quarterly growth rate from 1947 to 2011 is 3.28%, so I don't see how a 5% growth rate is out of the question.
I don't think that the GOP would be against raising money to fund the war. The GOP would lose a lot of support if they were to oppose a tax to pay for the war.
07 Aug 11
Originally posted by EladarOf course a persistent 5% growth per year is out of the question. The richer a country becomes, the harder it will be to have a high percentage growth. 1947 USA was dirt poor compared to 2011 USA, so don't hope for similar growth rates.
The average US quarterly growth rate from 1947 to 2011 is 3.28%, so I don't see how a 5% growth rate is out of the question.
I don't think that the GOP would be against raising money to fund the war. The GOP would lose a lot of support if they were to oppose a tax to pay for the war.
08 Aug 11
Originally posted by KazetNagorra"The GOP currently seems rather opposed to funding expenses."
Expecting 5% annual growth as a norm is bizarre and, frankly, stupid.
The GOP currently seems rather opposed to funding expenses.
We've just given an unlimited credit card to an addicted government. The problem is not revenue. It is spending.
08 Aug 11
Norm,
I'm glad you chimed in. Is there also a problem with fighting a war without raising the funds to fight it? Yes, part of the problem is that we have too much social spending, but the other is an unfunded war!
What do you think about raising a special tax to actually pay for the war? Once the funds have been raised, the tax automatically expires.
10 Aug 11
Originally posted by EladarWhat on earth are you babbling about?
I find it rather strange that no one is talking about how GW started (and Obama continues) wars that are unfunded!
Our soldiers risk their lives, but no one is being asked to foot the bill. No one is being asked to contribute to the war. I find that rather strange.
Why has no one figured out exactly how much we've spent on these wars (Lybia included) ...[text shortened]... a 1% national sales tax that will expire once the total cost for the wars has been collected.
http://costofwar.com/en/
I'd post the figure, but it's a running count.
I think you'll need to sell a kidney to help your country out, pal.
10 Aug 11
Originally posted by EladarRaising the sales tax will not help the economy.
The economy is sucky, but a 1% sales tax won't hurt it.
As for our weapons being no good, all I can say is that I hope not. But then again, perhaps Germany and France have a better military.
The sales tax is regressive in the sense that it burdens the poor because they spend a higher percentage of their income than the wealthy.
10 Aug 11
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Originally posted by shavixmirThe war in Lybia is costing th USA 2-3 million daily, we fund 75 % of that action,, oh did I call it a war,, DOH..now lets get right over to Somalia too, where the situation is much worse,, maybe, just maybe some other country can get there first..Holland?
What on earth are you babbling about?
http://costofwar.com/en/
I'd post the figure, but it's a running count.
I think you'll need to sell a kidney to help your country out, pal.
Oh wait most of Europe is going down the sewer.
In times like these we circle the wagons and recover ourselves, before we can help the rest of this planet.... been doing it for too many years now....
Most of the people of Holland owe the USA more than a kidney..... as do the French.
10 Aug 11
Originally posted by Hugh GlassDo they? Why do I owe the US anything, let alone a valued piece of my anatomy?
Most of the people of Holland owe the USA more than a kidney..... as do the French.
Mhmmm?
Why? What has the US done for me lately, buddy?
Now, before you answer, think. Because if you mention WWII I will mention the war of independance.
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10 Aug 11
Originally posted by EladarI'm actually with you.
I find it rather strange that no one is talking about how GW started (and Obama continues) wars that are unfunded!
Our soldiers risk their lives, but no one is being asked to foot the bill. No one is being asked to contribute to the war. I find that rather strange.
Why has no one figured out exactly how much we've spent on these wars (Lybia included) ...[text shortened]... a 1% national sales tax that will expire once the total cost for the wars has been collected.