Originally posted by Eladar
Anyone who can promise the glory and respect of the elder days will be loved by the population. It worked for Hitler too, as well as other dictators.

But what if there is no dictatorship, and no organised mistreatment of gays, and no brainwashed population? What if what's labeled as propaganda is only an objective description of events? Perhaps, that's the reason for the popularity. Why think that the others are incapable of understanding what's fair, but you are, obviously, smarter than them?

The entire discussion in this thread is completely misguided and relies unquestionably on the distorted premises. Just try to keep it in mind while talking about the things you have no direct knowledge of.

Originally posted by infomast
But what if there is no dictatorship, and no organised mistreatment of gays, and no brainwashed population? What if what's labeled as propaganda is only an objective description of events? Perhaps, that's the reason for the popularity. Why think that the others are incapable of understanding what's fair, but you are, obviously, smarter than them?

The ent ...[text shortened]... ses. Just try to keep it in mind while talking about the things you have no direct knowledge of.

The whole gay issue is a simple one to figure out.

Progs in the West, led by President Obama, think that we have over population. For them, what needs to be done is limit population through any means, whether it be abortion, gay sex, birth control, etc.. However, Putin is of the opposite mind. Putin wants Russians to actually have more children. Putin is of the mind that children are the country's greatest resource, and to try and establish the former glory of the former USSR, Russians must be encouraged to reproduce. Therefore, he shuns gay sex, abortion, etc.

Deep down I don't think either Obama or Putin have convictions on social issues such as gay sex or abortion, rather, they use them for various political objectives.

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And it will rise to 99% once the KGB [sic!] finds out who disapproved.

Originally posted by Shallow Blue
And it will rise to 99% once the KGB [sic!] finds out who disapproved.

Apparently some of the Russian Army rank and file disapprove.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/10/us-ukraine-crisis-soldiers-specialreport-idUSKBN0NV06Q20150510

Originally posted by whodey
The whole gay issue is a simple one to figure out.

Progs in the West, led by President Obama, think that we have over population. For them, what needs to be done is limit population through any means, whether it be abortion, gay sex, birth control, etc.. However, Putin is of the opposite mind. Putin wants Russians to actually have more children. Puti ...[text shortened]... cial issues such as gay sex or abortion, rather, they use them for various political objectives.

I love the argument of over population, but then turn around and argue the need for increased immigration.

Setting up abortion centers in the US so that the poor can abort their children and quit reproducing combined with increased immigration of uneducated and unskilled labor just means that the powers that be want to replace the present lower class with a different lower class.

Obama and his ilk want to replace blacks with Hispanics.

Originally posted by infomast
But what if there is no dictatorship, and no organised mistreatment of gays, and no brainwashed population? What if what's labeled as propaganda is only an objective description of events? Perhaps, that's the reason for the popularity. Why think that the others are incapable of understanding what's fair, but you are, obviously, smarter than them?

The ent ...[text shortened]... ses. Just try to keep it in mind while talking about the things you have no direct knowledge of.

When do liberals ever care about how gays are treated in other countries? Liberals love countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran.

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Sounds exactly what Chamberlain types would say about Hitler before WWII.

Originally posted by Eladar
I love the argument of over population, but then turn around and argue the need for increased immigration.

Setting up abortion centers in the US so that the poor can abort their children and quit reproducing combined with increased immigration of uneducated and unskilled labor just means that the powers that be want to replace the present lower class with a different lower class.

Obama and his ilk want to replace blacks with Hispanics.

It makes sense. They want poor immigrants to come to the US, get indoctrinated, and have abortions. It's either that or they will continue to reproduce elsewhere.

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Putin and Bush seemed to get along pretty well. However, Putin has no respect for Obama and I don't blame him. 😏

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If Cohen thinks the West cheered Yeltsin on - after the first couple of years, that is, when his drunkenslobness became apparent - he's blinkered or hasn't done his homework; probably the former.

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Regardless of the details, you presented this "suicide" as fact. How do you, or anyone else know for certain what was in the man's mind, or what caused his death?