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    Are you sure it's not just racial, i.e. more likely to be more violent against blacks versus whites?
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    I guess the fact that the left wing was protesting at 5 times the rate and how that might disproportionately contribute to increased tensions between police and leftwing protestors was conveniently excluded from the analysis...

    Notice 7% of Leftwing protest harmed people or resulted in property damage...that about 651 instances that had incurred damage according to the article.
    Further notice that statistic for the Rightwing group is not clearly presented. But if we take the percentage of peaceful rightwing protests as reported at 96%( to what extent can you be peacefully protesting and damaging property) to be a lower bound that would result in 92 incidences of damage.
    Now: Categorically they fail to mention what the extent of damage incurred was for each group, but I don't recall the right wing protestors looting, or burning buildings. Feel free the to enlighten me if I'm incorrect about this. What they need to present is a total damages cost for each group. Then we can look at proportionalities that may have contributed to greater use of force.

    Lets assume that property damage is property damage. Meaning the magnitude of said damage was similar in each instance ( this is an assumption which highly favors leftwing protest in my opinion ). The Gaurdians say "3" time more likely to use force but they leave out the leftwing protests have done at least 7 times the damage. Why would they not mention the extent of the damages I wonder...

    The funny thing about all this is police use Mathematics given to them by scientist to maximize effectiveness. Then, the same leftist that complain about not following "science" complain about how unfair the outcome of the methodology is! Its hurts my head....
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    Most cops are pretty conservative, it' the nature of the beast.
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    @suzianne said
    Are you sure it's not just racial, i.e. more likely to be more violent against blacks versus whites?
    There was a study, years ago, which came to the same conclusion. It also concluded that the average police officer is more right-wing than the average citizen.
    The uniform, structure and authority appealing to certain types more than others.
    And that it was an issue which needed to be addressed.
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    No...I'm just pointing out ( what any rational thinker would realize ) key information oddly missing from the article that if presented would likely tell a different story about potential causes of the observed "discrepancy" of 3.3% other than use of force leftwing bias.
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    Estimates of the damage to private and public property as a result of the George Floyd "protests" 1 to 2 BILLION dollars.

    Gee wiz...I can't imagine why these poor activist had more rubber bullets shot at them!
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    @suzianne said
    Are you sure it's not just racial, i.e. more likely to be more violent against blacks versus whites?
    No. That is exactly the trap USAlian wokelings are falling into.

    To be fair, in the USA, racism certainly is a part of it. But make no mistake: this is a trend all over the world, even in countries where your national hang-ups do not apply. Power, everywhere - and especially petty power such as is vested in a beat-pounding police person - always kicks down and sucks up.
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    Thank God for that!
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    @joe-shmo said
    Estimates of the damage to private and public property as a result of the George Floyd "protests" 1 to 2 BILLION dollars.

    Gee wiz...I can't imagine why these poor activist had more rubber bullets shot at them!
    Funny that those "estimates" don't happen to say who actually did this damage. Peaceful protests generally don't result in property damage until/unless they are provoked by inordinate/excessive suppression and/or bad actors looking to blunt the protest by blaming protestors for the actions of those actors.
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    @shavixmir said
    There was a study, years ago, which came to the same conclusion. It also concluded that the average police officer is more right-wing than the average citizen.
    The uniform, structure and authority appealing to certain types more than others.
    And that it was an issue which needed to be addressed.
    Look at the Capitol riot. How many of those mostly white protestors got beaten down? Answer: not even a fraction as many as had they been black.
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    @suzianne said
    Funny that those "estimates" don't happen to say who actually did this damage. Peaceful protests generally don't result in property damage until/unless they are provoked by inordinate/excessive suppression and/or bad actors looking to blunt the protest by blaming protestors for the actions of those actors.
    This statement is so franking idiotic I've deleted my reply.
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