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    14 Apr '18 08:33
    Originally posted by @wajoma
    Drooling reporter "Ryan has cited Ayn Rand, the libertarian philosopher, "

    Ayn Rand was an Objectivist philosopher, she had some quite strong criticisms of Libertarians.
    Calling Rand a "philosopher" is like calling anti-vaxxers immunologists.
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    15 Apr '18 13:06
    Originally posted by @metal-brain
    Trump just does what Henry Kissinger tells him to do. If he doesn't do what Kissinger tells him to do Mueller turns on the heat and so does the corporate news media.
    But like the Johnny Walker Scotch ad, it's the man or woman behind the man behind the man behind the bar.

    In this case the woman Lynn Forester as she was known then when she first started to support and fundraise for Bill Clinton back in 92 and became a friend and financial backer of Hilary Clinton ever since, who was introduced by Kissinger to Sir Evelyn de Rothschild at a Bilderberg event, who after getting married spent the first night of their honeymoon as guests of the Clintons at the Whitehouse in the Lincoln bedroom.

    Now to call Sir and Lady de Rothschild, anything other than fully functional members of the globalist elite incrementally furthering the one world governance agenda in everything they venture, including the promotion of a new international currency that will supercede the US dollar as instrument of international exchange, then you could be accused of simply not paying enough attention.

    Are the de Rothschild's connected in anyway to the Council on Foreign Relations, that wonderful think-tank that seems to provide more aparatchicks to any Whitehouse administration than any other organisation save perhaps Goldman Sachs? Well Lady de Rothschild is a sitting member of the CFR, as well she should be, when she on occasion, counts among her many varied activities; spending weekends with Queen Elizabeth.

    So how does this line up Trump? Well Don and Mel, had the Clintons over their place for their little wedding soiree that included a who's who of the American and International business and media world's.

    But what about Trump and the de Rothschild's??? Well it all gets rather circumstantial at this point you know, and it takes a really long bow, but remember the whole Sir Evelyn and Lynn Forester being introduced to each other at a Bilderberg conference by Henry Kissinger?

    Well the meeting of the Bilderbergers happened in Scotland in 1998 at the luxurious Golfing Hotel Resort the Turnberry, bought by the Donald in 2014.


    Surely incidental, purely coincidental at best, keep sipping your Bud, nothing to see, and the fact that Trump SCOTUS appointee Gorsuch and the NSA's McMaster and Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao ( yes Mitch McConnell's better half) are CFR members and Treasury Secretary Mnuchin while not listed as a CFR member he is a Skull and Bones man and was a Goldman Sachs executive which is a Corporate founding member of the CFR, and let's not forget regular Bilderberg summit attendees Rick Perry, Trump's secretary of the other thing, and. Secretary of Defence Mattis who attended Bilderberg as an honorary Hoover Institute fellow and last but not least Trump's Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross who counts Rothschild Inc as a former employer, as does George Soros incidentally, so the notion of sides and opposition is a deeply flawed construct as always, and though the elites have their favorites, the notion that the deck will not be stacked to enact the will of the greater good : ie - the policies that will ensure the sustained profitability of the trillionaires and billionaires that make up the uncrowned rulers of this world.....

    So yes you make a good point and not that you would disagree, but it goes a lot deeper than just Kissinger.
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    16 Apr '18 11:08
    Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
    Calling Rand a "philosopher" is like calling anti-vaxxers immunologists.
    I see on other threads you like to reference wiki, so this should be right up your alley.

    "Objectivism
    Objectivism is a philosophical system developed by Russian-American writer Ayn Rand. Rand first expressed Objectivism in her fiction, most notably The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged, and later in non-fiction essays and books. Leonard Peikoff, a professional philosopher and Rand's designated intellectual heir, later gave it a more formal structure. Peikoff characterizes Objectivism as a "closed system" that is not subject to change.


    I'm thinking what ever issues you have with Objectivism (and we've never seen any reasonable criticism from you, just your typical thoughtless snark) being able to put ones name on a Philosophical system would make one, by default, a philosopher.
  4. Germany
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    16 Apr '18 16:27
    Originally posted by @wajoma
    I see on other threads you like to reference wiki, so this should be right up your alley.

    [i]"Objectivism
    Objectivism is a philosophical system developed by Russian-American writer Ayn Rand. Rand first expressed Objectivism in her fiction, most notably The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged, and later in non-fiction essays and books. Leonard Peikoff, a prof ...[text shortened]... being able to put ones name on a Philosophical system would make one, by default, a philosopher.
    A joke is a display of humour in which words are used within a specific and well-defined narrative structure to make people laugh and is not meant to be taken seriously. It takes the form of a story, usually with dialogue, and ends in a punch line. It is in the punch line that the audience becomes aware that the story contains a second, conflicting meaning. This can be done using a pun or other word play such as irony, a logical incompatibility, nonsense, or other means. Linguist Robert Hetzron offers the definition:

    A joke is a short humorous piece of oral literature in which the funniness culminates in the final sentence, called the punchline… In fact, the main condition is that the tension should reach its highest level at the very end. No continuation relieving the tension should be added. As for its being "oral," it is true that jokes may appear printed, but when further transferred, there is no obligation to reproduce the text verbatim, as in the case of poetry.[1]

    It is generally held that jokes benefit from brevity, containing no more detail than is needed to set the scene for the punchline at the end. In the case of riddle jokes or one-liners the setting is implicitly understood, leaving only the dialogue and punchline to be verbalised. However, subverting these and other common guidelines can also be a source of humor—the shaggy dog story is in a class of its own as an anti-joke; although presenting as a joke, it contains a long drawn-out narrative of time, place and character, rambles through many pointless inclusions and finally fails to deliver a punchline. Jokes are a form of humour, but not all humour is a joke. Some humorous forms which are not verbal jokes are: involuntary humour, situational humour, practical jokes, slapstick and anecdotes.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke
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    17 Apr '18 07:54
    Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
    A joke is a display of humour in which words are used within a specific and well-defined narrative structure to make people laugh....
    Are you implying that the Wadge, is a thin skinned humourless bastard?
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    17 Apr '18 09:25
    Originally posted by @wajoma
    ... being able to put ones name on a Philosophical system would make one, by default, a philosopher.
    Like being able to put ones name on a political system would make one, by default, a politician?

    Like being able to put ones name on a surgical procedure would make one, by default, a surgeon?
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    17 Apr '18 09:581 edit
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    Like being able to put ones name on a political system would make one, by default, a politician?

    Like being able to put ones name on a surgical procedure would make one, by default, a surgeon?
    Like being able to put ones name on a big brown grogan would make one, by default, a wolfgang.
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    20 Apr '18 21:261 edit
    YouTube&t=95

    In the words of Sam Bee, "In the shade of trumpism it is more important than ever to distinguish between honorable people we disagree with and objectively bad people. Paul Ryan is a bad person."
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    21 Apr '18 02:40
    Originally posted by @kmax87
    But like the Johnny Walker Scotch ad, it's the man or woman behind the man behind the man behind the bar.

    In this case the woman Lynn Forester as she was known then when she first started to support and fundraise for Bill Clinton back in 92 and became a friend and financial backer of Hilary Clinton ever since, who was introduced by Kissinger to Sir Evelyn ...[text shortened]... make a good point and not that you would disagree, but it goes a lot deeper than just Kissinger.
    I never said Kissinger made all the decisions, just that he was delivering the message. Don't forget the Rockefellers. They pull a lot of puppet strings.
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    21 Apr '18 11:14
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    Hint: That doesn't make one 'better'.
    No one put a value on the efforts, just the results.
    In the history of man, those at the top for any significant amount of time have never been idiots.
    Trump is not an idiot and anyone using the descriptor demonstrates they have exhausted any other avenue of legitimate complaint.
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    21 Apr '18 11:20
    Originally posted by @freakykbh
    No one put a value on the efforts, just the results.
    In the history of man, those at the top for any significant amount of time have never been idiots.
    Trump is not an idiot and anyone using the descriptor demonstrates they have exhausted any other avenue of legitimate complaint.
    This is all I needed to see... to understand Trump:

    YouTube
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    21 Apr '18 23:20
    Originally posted by @freakykbh
    No one put a value on the efforts, just the results.
    In the history of man, those at the top for any significant amount of time have never been idiots.
    Trump is not an idiot and anyone using the descriptor demonstrates they have exhausted any other avenue of legitimate complaint.
    He writes and talks like a five-year-old.

    "Past perfomance is not a predictor of future events."

    Are YOU five?
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    22 Apr '18 16:49
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    Like being able to put ones name on a political system would make one, by default, a politician?

    Like being able to put ones name on a surgical procedure would make one, by default, a surgeon?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ideologies_named_after_people
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_eponymous_surgical_procedures

    Kind of the point, isn't it?
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    22 Apr '18 17:22
    Originally posted by @wolfe63
    This is all I needed to see... to understand Trump:

    [youtube]zrTOlNDMTvg[/youtube]
    He's channeling Mussolini.
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    22 Apr '18 18:22
    Originally posted by @wolfe63
    This is all I needed to see... to understand Trump:

    [youtube]zrTOlNDMTvg[/youtube]
    Anyone claiming they can understand another person on the basis of a six-second video clip without any context otherwise deserves as much approval as possible from anonymous posters on a website that hasn't broken into the top million of all 331,000,000 domains on the internet.

    So, congratulations, I guess...

    As a possible counterweight to your assessment criterion, perhaps a consideration of what the man has done throughout his career, up to and including--- but by no means the only thing--- his pivotal part of salvaging NYC from its financial death back in the 70's.
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