Now a fourth victim comes forth, witnesses.

Now a fourth victim comes forth, witnesses.

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Civis Americanus Sum

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The post that was quoted here has been removed
I mean in terms of holding individuals responsible for alleged conduct.

International diplomacy is an entirely different kettle of fish. International diplomacy isn't always about right and wrong and culpability and non-culpability.

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Originally posted by @suzianne
Bingo.
Was that why no one wanted to hold Bill Clinton accountable for those women he was
accused of assaulting and raping? I would then wonder why did everyone got so, bent
out of shape over things Trump was accused of? Personally, I'm more of the opinion that
people allow those in the party they support to get away with more things than the people
in the party they don't. Well “don't support” are not a strong enough words any more, it is
more like those people in the party they despised and oppose with every fiber of their
being.

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Originally posted by @sonhouse
And especially this one with a proven sexual predator track record and will give Trump a get out of jail card and kill Roe V Wade and eviscerate the EPA even more than it is now and make unions a weak parody of what it is now.
You don't know he did it, he is accused, nothing proven. If you are more worried about
what he would do in office so you are eager to see his name smeared, than even his
crimes he is being accused of are just a means to an end to you, it isn't about justice, or
what is right in this case against him! It is only about stopping him from affecting things
you care about not his crimes. You seem to be perfectly content allowing a man who
could be innocent to be destroyed to protect these things.

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Originally posted by @suzianne
Unions. Yeah.

I'm from red state Arizona, and unions here are a joke.

If there are some here with power, I haven't heard of them. Even the UFW aren't as big here as in California. Maybe the Teamsters, maybe there are some in construction, like IBEW, or NABTU, but they don't rock the boat and they never make the news, either, so they are practicall ...[text shortened]... in my state. It seems that ever since Reagan, unions are a weak parody of what they used to be.
Right to work state I believe, but if you want strong unions you have to go to states with
high taxes and oppressive regulations like California and Illinois.

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Originally posted by @sonhouse
For one thing, they have a fixed service time in office and can be voted out. SCOTUS appointments are forever and it is nearly impossible to kick them out even if they shoot someone on Broadway, well, I guess they can be tried if they perform an actual criminal act but outside of that they are part of the woodwork.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/08/nyr ...[text shortened]... /chris-collins-insider-trading.html

Oh wait, congressmen DO get charged so what is your beef?
Where is the outrage about Keith Ellison Domestic Abuse occurring right now?

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
You don't know he did it, he is accused, nothing proven. If you are more worried about
what he would do in office so you are eager to see his name smeared, than even his
crimes he is being accused of are just a means to an end to you, it isn't about justice, or
what is right in this case against him! It is only about stopping him from affecting things
...[text shortened]... perfectly content allowing a man who
could be innocent to be destroyed to protect these things.
He could be innocent, but it's not particularly likely. So maybe it's better to, I dunno, nominate someone who is not likely to be a rapist and drug addict?

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Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
He could be innocent, but it's not particularly likely. So maybe it's better to, I dunno, nominate someone who is not likely to be a rapist and drug addict?
"He could be innocent, but it's not particularly likely."

The left has gone crazy. Is this really the world you want to live in?

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
Right to work state I believe, but if you want strong unions you have to go to states with
high taxes and oppressive regulations like California and Illinois.
"oppressive regulations"

Hilarious.

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Devout Agnostic.

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We should believe all victims... except the ones accusing Bill Clinton of rape.

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Originally posted by @huckleberryhound
We should believe all victims... except the ones accusing Bill Clinton of rape.
Is that why you voted for a rapist in the 2016 U.S. presidential elections?

Devout Agnostic.

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Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
Is that why you voted for a rapist in the 2016 U.S. presidential elections?
Bill Clinton wasn't on the ticket.

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Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
He could be innocent, but it's not particularly likely. So maybe it's better to, I dunno, nominate someone who is not likely to be a rapist and drug addict?
As you are already claiming "He could be innocent, but it's not particulary likely..." are you
not passing judgment upon him? It's not particularly likely has slanted his guilt, as if he has
to prove he is innocent, when in fact at least in this country, we are supposed to assume
innocents not guilt.

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Originally posted by @suzianne
"oppressive regulations"

Hilarious.
I've lived in all three states yes, the two not right to work states are going broke, and many
of the promises made to pay people retirements are not going to be honored, not because
they don't want to, the debts will be to much, and there simply will not be enough money.

Another reason I think this guy is hated it isn't just abortion, but right to work.

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Originally posted by @huckleberryhound
Bill Clinton wasn't on the ticket.
Donald Trump was.

In case you missed it, Trump's ex-wife swore under oath that he has raped her.