@no1marauder said
I haven't voted for a Democratic Presidential candidate since 1992.

Some "loyal Democrat". You really are a sub moron.

The facts are the facts. Even with all the difficulties the country is in, 82% of Democrats approve of Biden.

Is that because you don't vote?

" Even with all the difficulties the country is in, 82% of Democrats approve of Biden."

That is pathetically unremarkable. I would expect voters remorse to be low in any political party. Has anybody had a lower approval of the POTUS in their own party? Truman perhaps? Nixon right before he resigned?

@no1marauder said
You know perfectly well, unless you are so much of an idiot that you forgot things we have discussed on this Forum at least a dozen times, that Sanders did "make waves" about DWS and, in fact, forced her to resign from her Democratic Party chairmanship.

Sanders ran an aggressive campaign, spent about $165 million in campaign expenditures (https://www.opensecrets.org/20 ...[text shortened]... s). Your moronic assertion that he "didn't try to win" in 2020 is utterly and mind-numbingly stupid.

" Sanders did "make waves" about DWS and, in fact, forced her to resign from her Democratic Party chairmanship."

Really? I heard nothing about that on the corporate TV news.
Are you claiming he made waves and the corporate news media suppressed it so few people would know?

Guess who replaced DWS after she was forced to resign in disgrace? Donna Brazile, the person who gave HRC the debate questions in advance of the debate. They replaced one election meddler with another. Dude, wake up!

@metal-brain said
Is that because you don't vote?

" Even with all the difficulties the country is in, 82% of Democrats approve of Biden."

That is pathetically unremarkable. I would expect voters remorse to be low in any political party. Has anybody had a lower approval of the POTUS in their own party? Truman perhaps? Nixon right before he resigned?

I vote every year.

In case you forgot what we were talking about, that fact is a refutation of the oft-repeated claim that people didn't vote for Biden but only against Trump. I couldn't find 2020 numbers, but it is reasonable to suppose that at the time of the election Biden's approval among Democrats was over 90%.

@metal-brain said
" Sanders did "make waves" about DWS and, in fact, forced her to resign from her Democratic Party chairmanship."

Really? I heard nothing about that on the corporate TV news.
Are you claiming he made waves and the corporate news media suppressed it so few people would know?

No, I'm saying you are such a pathetic moron that you didn't pay any attention to such coverage and then ignorantly blabbed there was no coverage.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/25/us/politics/debbie-wasserman-schultz-dnc-wikileaks-emails.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-conventions/democratic-national-committee-chief-stepping-aside-after-convention-n615826

https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/24/politics/debbie-wasserman-schultz-dnc-chair-career/index.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hacked-emails-cast-doubt-on-hopes-for-party-unity-at-democratic-convention/2016/07/24/a446c260-51a9-11e6-b7de-dfe509430c39_story.html

And on and on and on ....................................................

@no1marauder said
No, I'm saying you are such a pathetic moron that you didn't pay any attention to such coverage and then ignorantly blabbed there was no coverage.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/25/us/politics/debbie-wasserman-schultz-dnc-wikileaks-emails.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-conventions/democratic-national-committee-chief-stepping-aside-after-convention-n615 ...[text shortened]... dfe509430c39_story.html

And on and on and on ....................................................

I am calling you a liar. I watch the news every day. The corporate TV news ignored it or I would have noticed. Websites are not a TV you moron!

If you voted 3rd party since 1992 why are you convinced people don't want a 3rd party POTUS? You clearly do unless you are writing in your own name or something silly like that.

@no1marauder said
I vote every year.

In case you forgot what we were talking about, that fact is a refutation of the oft-repeated claim that people didn't vote for Biden but only against Trump. I couldn't find 2020 numbers, but it is reasonable to suppose that at the time of the election Biden's approval among Democrats was over 90%.

Guess who replaced DWS after she was forced to resign in disgrace? Donna Brazile, the person who gave HRC the debate questions in advance of the debate. They replaced one election meddler with another. Dude, wake up!

@metal-brain said
I am calling you a liar. I watch the news every day. The corporate TV news ignored it or I would have noticed. Websites are not a TV you moron!

If you voted 3rd party since 1992 why are you convinced people don't want a 3rd party POTUS? You clearly do unless you are writing in your own name or something silly like that.

You're calling me a "liar" when I just linked to articles in the major media outlets at the time showing what a pathetic moron you are?

You're an unbelievable a-hole.

Read the damn title thread that you created. Notice it says the word "most". That I have voted for third party candidates for 30 years (and another in 1980) doesn't mean "most people" want one.

@metal-brain said
Guess who replaced DWS after she was forced to resign in disgrace? Donna Brazile, the person who gave HRC the debate questions in advance of the debate. They replaced one election meddler with another. Dude, wake up!

Why don't you admit you were wrong and we'll start from there?

Sanders "made waves" about DWS and she had to resign. That story was extensively covered in the major news outlets.

Say "That is correct" and we'll go from there.

@no1marauder said
You're calling me a "liar" when I just linked to articles in the major media outlets at the time showing what a pathetic moron you are?

You're an unbelievable a-hole.

Read the damn title thread that you created. Notice it says the word "most". That I have voted for third party candidates for 30 years (and another in 1980) doesn't mean "most people" want one.

You're an unbelievable a-hole.

You know the difference between websites and TV. You are lying again. Read what I wrote, not what you wanted me to write. Moron!

Obama didn't want to get rid of DWS. Here is an excerpt from the link below:

John Podesta, Clinton’s campaign chairman — and a former top adviser to Barack Obama — broached the idea of replacing Wasserman Schultz as early as last fall, only to be rebuffed by the president’s team, according to two people with direct knowledge of the conversation.

“It came down to the fact that the president didn’t want the hassle of getting rid of Debbie,” said a former top Obama adviser. “It’s been a huge problem for the Clintons, but the president just didn’t want the headache of Debbie bad-mouthing him. ... It was a huge pain in the ass.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/debbie-wasserman-schultz-dnc-226100

So Obama thought getting rid of an election meddler was a pain in the ass not worth the trouble. Russia on the other hand.....

@no1marauder said
Why don't you admit you were wrong and we'll start from there?

Sanders "made waves" about DWS and she had to resign. That story was extensively covered in the major news outlets.

Say "That is correct" and we'll go from there.

Not TV. You are a liar.

Anybody can find that info on the internet. Stop being dishonest.
Obama didn't want DWS to bad mouth him. I suppose he really cared what an exposed election meddler might say about him. Do you honestly believe that?

@metal-brain said
Not TV. You are a liar.

Anybody can find that info on the internet. Stop being dishonest.

What a complete idiot you are.

So you're claiming that all these news outlets put the story on their websites but didn't show them on their TV news programs?

You can't be that stupid, can you? If I go back and find the videos, what BS excuse will you come up with to avoid admitting you were completely wrong?

EDIT: Here's one from MSNBC: YouTube

There's a 3:10 video from NBC news here: https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-conventions/democratic-national-committee-chief-stepping-aside-after-convention-n615826

A 2:39 video from ABC news coverage here: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wasserman-schultz-step-democratic-national-committee-chair/story?id=40838011

I could go on easily enough.

@no1marauder said
What a complete idiot you are.

So you're claiming that all these news outlets put the story on their websites but didn't show them on their TV news programs?

You can't be that stupid, can you? If I go back and find the videos, what BS excuse will you come up with to avoid admitting you were completely wrong?

EDIT: Here's one from MSNBC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVmGudgxiRg

"So you're claiming that all these news outlets put the story on their websites but didn't show them on their TV news programs?"

Yes. They do that often. Where have you been?

@no1marauder said
What a complete idiot you are.

So you're claiming that all these news outlets put the story on their websites but didn't show them on their TV news programs?

You can't be that stupid, can you? If I go back and find the videos, what BS excuse will you come up with to avoid admitting you were completely wrong?

EDIT: Here's one from MSNBC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVmGudgxiRg

I don't watch TV that is not free.

@no1marauder said
You're calling me a "liar" when I just linked to articles in the major media outlets at the time showing what a pathetic moron you are?

You're an unbelievable a-hole.

Read the damn title thread that you created. Notice it says the word "most". That I have voted for third party candidates for 30 years (and another in 1980) doesn't mean "most people" want one.

So you don't believe the Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll? That is Dore's source.

https://thehill.com/news/campaign/3462899-58-percent-of-voters-open-to-backing-independent-candidate-if-faced-with-biden-trump-poll/

@metal-brain said
"So you're claiming that all these news outlets put the story on their websites but didn't show them on their TV news programs?"

Yes. They do that often. Where have you been?

On Earth, some place you obviously only have a passing knowledge of.

No, the major networks did not bury the DWS resignation story; they put it right on their convention coverage.