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I didn't think MB could locate the names of 10 dead people who voted. But he did. I was wrong and I humbly admit defeat. One cannot win them all. This list seems to check out.

John H. Granahan of Allentown
Judy Presto of Southpark
Elizabeth Bartman of Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania
Edward Skwiot of Trenton, Georgia
Gertrude Nizzere
Frances M. Reckhow
Eugene William Davis
Miguel Sosa
Ralph Nanninga
Vic Cook

All these people were dead when they submitted ballots. Maybe this is just the tip of the iceburg? Maybe this is all there is, since a team of influential and high-paid lawyers have already combed through voter records and death records for months.

Is this the tip of the iceburg or most of the iceburg?

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If they were dead they were not submitting ballots.

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@wildgrass said
I didn't think MB could locate the names of 10 dead people who voted. But he did. I was wrong and I humbly admit defeat. One cannot win them all. This list seems to check out.

John H. Granahan of Allentown
Judy Presto of Southpark
Elizabeth Bartman of Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania
Edward Skwiot of Trenton, Georgia
Gertrude Nizzere
Frances M. Reckhow
Eugene William Davi ...[text shortened]... oter records and death records for months.

Is this the tip of the iceburg or most of the iceburg?
Have you or MB ascertained who these dead people voted for?
I would’ve waited for MB to apologise for his torrent of lies on the subject of voter fraud personally but well done for being the bigger individual.

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@wildgrass
I'm waiting for Season 10 of the Walking Dead to come out on Netflix.
I think we saw a preview on Jan 6th.

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@kevcvs57 said
Have you or MB ascertained who these dead people voted for?
I would’ve waited for MB to apologise for his torrent of lies on the subject of voter fraud personally but well done for being the bigger individual.
These are all cases that were caught, before the vote was added to the count.
In other words, proving the system works.

Obviously there will always be dubious individuals, morons and accidents. The proof of the pudding is whether they get away with it or not.

This proves that they don’t.
MB would need to prove that illegal votes were counted (and statistically obviously a few would have to have slipped through). And he hasn’t.

Nor have trump and his cronies proven there was fraud on a massive scale or a scale which could have swung the elections.
Because all evidence points to the contrary. Even multiple recounts.

What MB does is take grains of salt and argue that they’re alien mountains out to rape you.

The man is a loonie and should be treated as such.

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@shavixmir said
These are all cases that were caught, before the vote was added to the count.
In other words, proving the system works.

Obviously there will always be dubious individuals, morons and accidents. The proof of the pudding is whether they get away with it or not.

This proves that they don’t.
MB would need to prove that illegal votes were counted (and statistically obvi ...[text shortened]... that they’re alien mountains out to rape you.

The man is a loonie and should be treated as such.
Are you claiming to know how many dead people were not caught? Are you like Santa Clause and know what people are thinking?

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@shavixmir said
These are all cases that were caught, before the vote was added to the count.
In other words, proving the system works.

Obviously there will always be dubious individuals, morons and accidents. The proof of the pudding is whether they get away with it or not.

This proves that they don’t.
MB would need to prove that illegal votes were counted (and statistically obvi ...[text shortened]... that they’re alien mountains out to rape you.

The man is a loonie and should be treated as such.
Exactly right. Given the existence of updated digitized voter records and death records, it should be very easy to find a list of 10 names but the exercise turned out to be quite the back and forth.

Using an extremely generous number, let's say only 0.1% of dead voters are caught and for whatever reason an overwhelming fraction of dead voters votes counted (I don't know how that would even be possible, but just for sake of argument). That would mean that, in addition to our 10 names nationwide, 10,000 dead people voted. Now we take another extremely generous number and say that 100% of those 10,000 dead people voted for Smokin' Joe. Now we take another extremely generous assumption and say that all 10,000 of those dead Biden voters live in Pennsylvania.

Subtract those votes and Biden still wins by 34,000.

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@metal-brain said
Are you claiming to know how many dead people were not caught? Are you like Santa Clause and know what people are thinking?
This recent study looked at 4.5 million counted votes over the course of 8 years and linked this to administrative death records.

"... between 2011 and 2018, we estimate that there are 14 deceased individuals whose ballots might have been cast suspiciously long after their death, representing 0.0003% of voters."

Feel free to comb through their seemingly rigorous methodology (death record name match, gender match, age match, residency, middle name etc), but say we assume their analysis is waaaay waaaaay off. Maybe they underestimated this layer of voter fraud by 100-fold Even if they're off by 2 orders of magnitude, it'd be 0.03% of the vote total. (this would actually be statistically impossible given that their name match-only number was only 0.019😵.

https://stanforddpl.org/papers/wu_et_al_2020_dead_voting/wu_et_al_2020_dead_voting.pdf

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@metal-brain said
Are you claiming to know how many dead people were not caught? Are you like Santa Clause and know what people are thinking?
Are you claiming to know that they were out there ??
You have been constantly putting the burden of proof upon the rest of us.
Whether it was Trump leaning on a Ukraine President, or buying off porn stars (did you actually see him write the check?) or anything else that has generated unsavory optics emanating from Trump for 4 years.

Yet anything you fling into this forum (or Trump and FOX fling out into the media) has no credible source of merit.
Your motto is "keep flinging it often enough and maybe after a while it will stick".
And it does stick...... to those "deplorables" descending on the Capitol buildings.

Why don't you guys carry a burden of proof for a change.
We are moving on and forward.....
Jan 20th.

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@wildgrass said
I didn't think MB could locate the names of 10 dead people who voted. But he did. I was wrong and I humbly admit defeat. One cannot win them all. This list seems to check out.

John H. Granahan of Allentown
Judy Presto of Southpark
Elizabeth Bartman of Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania
Edward Skwiot of Trenton, Georgia
Gertrude Nizzere
Frances M. Reckhow
Eugene William Davi ...[text shortened]... oter records and death records for months.

Is this the tip of the iceburg or most of the iceburg?
..............This is impossible, METAL BANE is never right,
or should I say, always right but never correct?

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@mghrn55 said
Are you claiming to know that they were out there ??
You have been constantly putting the burden of proof upon the rest of us.
Whether it was Trump leaning on a Ukraine President, or buying off porn stars (did you actually see him write the check?) or anything else that has generated unsavory optics emanating from Trump for 4 years.

Yet anything you fling into this forum ...[text shortened]... y don't you guys carry a burden of proof for a change.
We are moving on and forward.....
Jan 20th.
Of course not. That is impossible for anyone to know, but Shav asserted something nobody could possibly know. He must be special.

That is my point.

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@metal-brain said
Of course not. That is impossible for anyone to know, but Shav asserted something nobody could possibly know. He must be special.

That is my point.
........................What is 'THE DONALD' a clairvoyant?
I wonder if he sees jail time in his future?

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@shavixmir said
These are all cases that were caught, before the vote was added to the count.
In other words, proving the system works.

Obviously there will always be dubious individuals, morons and accidents. The proof of the pudding is whether they get away with it or not.

This proves that they don’t.
MB would need to prove that illegal votes were counted (and statistically obvi ...[text shortened]... that they’re alien mountains out to rape you.

The man is a loonie and should be treated as such.
I know, it’s been explained to him often enough that there is always statistically irrelevant electoral fraud and attempted fraud by individuals of both political colours.
All he has to do is find 7 million more cases that all voted for Biden and he’s cracked it.

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@wildgrass said
I didn't think MB could locate the names of 10 dead people who voted. But he did. I was wrong and I humbly admit defeat. One cannot win them all. This list seems to check out.

John H. Granahan of Allentown
Judy Presto of Southpark
Elizabeth Bartman of Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania
Edward Skwiot of Trenton, Georgia
Gertrude Nizzere
Frances M. Reckhow
Eugene William Davi ...[text shortened]... oter records and death records for months.

Is this the tip of the iceburg or most of the iceburg?
you set yourself up.
now you made him so damn happy that he forgets he needs like tens of thousands of voter fraud cases to overturn election results in several counties across multiple states.

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@metal-brain said
Are you claiming to know how many dead people were not caught? Are you like Santa Clause and know what people are thinking?
well, thankfully, normal, non-retarded people don't believe an event occurred based on all the evidence they don't have.