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Violent Land Dispute Between Indonesian Police and Farmers Caught on Tape
Jakarta.


Indonesia Corruption Watch have reacted strongly to reports that police in Bengkulu Province sexually harassed and physically abused 50 villagers in Seluma district as they protested against what they claim is a land grab by the state.


ICW activist Tama Satrya Langkun, recently in the headlines after he was beaten by unknown assailants after reporting a number of senior police generals to the Corruption Eradication Commission, said they had received concerning reports of a clash between farmers from Pering Baru village and Seluma Police on Friday.

He alleged that police had sexually harassed six women, injured 20 farmers and arrested 21 people in the incident.

The villagers were protesting against state plantation firm PT Perkebunan Nusantara (PTPN) VII in a land dispute.

On Tuesday, six women from the village laid charges of sexual harassment against the officers with Bengkulu Police’s Bureau of Professionalism and Security Affairs (Propam).

Zenzi Suhadi, deputy director of the Bengkulu branch of the Indonesian Forum for the Environment (Walhi), told state news agency Antara that the officers forced the women to take off some of their clothes.

“The police officers forced them to strip in front of their children and their parents. It was obviously harassment,” he said.

Part of the incident was filmed and uploaded on Youtube. It is titled “kekerasan & pelecehan seksual aparat terhadap rakyat di bengkulu.”

The video also shows police filming the incident. Gunfire can also be heard and at least one officer is filmed discharging his weapon in the air.

is this sort of corruption and abuse by the police common in Indonesia and if so can anything be done about it?

http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/home/violent-land-dispute-between-indonesian-police-and-farmers-caught-on-tape/388184

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Originally posted by utherpendragon
[b]Violent Land Dispute Between Indonesian Police and Farmers Caught on Tape
Jakarta.


Indonesia Corruption Watch have reacted strongly to reports that police in Bengkulu Province sexually harassed and physically abused 50 villagers in Seluma district as they protested against what they claim is a land grab by the state.


ICW activist Tama ...[text shortened]... aglobe.com/home/violent-land-dispute-between-indonesian-police-and-farmers-caught-on-tape/388184[/b]
where's FMF?

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Originally posted by generalissimo
where's FMF?
Recovering from his clash with the police; didn't you see the OP?

😉

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It's ok, they're all thieves and murderers anyway, right? 😉

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Originally posted by utherpendragon
[b]Violent Land Dispute Between Indonesian Police and Farmers Caught on Tape
Jakarta.


Indonesia Corruption Watch have reacted strongly to reports that police in Bengkulu Province sexually harassed and physically abused 50 villagers in Seluma district as they protested against what they claim is a land grab by the state.


ICW activist Tama ...[text shortened]... aglobe.com/home/violent-land-dispute-between-indonesian-police-and-farmers-caught-on-tape/388184[/b]
This dosen't make sense this against the public displays of nudity law all who were asked to strip could be arrested for being naked couldn't they?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/10/31/2406371.htm

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
It's ok, they're all thieves and murderers anyway, right? 😉
no speech on how their inalieanable rights must have been violated by europeans?

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Originally posted by generalissimo
no speech on how their inalieanable rights must have been violated by europeans?
Don't you mean "violated by ANGLOS"?

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Originally posted by Teinosuke
Don't you mean "violated by ANGLOS"?
Dutch in this case.

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And Japanese, smartass.

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I'd think FMF would be all over this by now,, maybe he did take a clubbing?

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Originally posted by Hugh Glass
I'd think FMF would be all over this by now,, maybe he did take a clubbing?
It's only been 3 hours. Give him two days.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Dutch in this case.

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And Japanese.
i don't think ATY can tell the difference.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
where's FMF?
I am the Chief of Police here in Indonesia. So I take full responsibility for the corruption that goes on. No excuses. You got me bang to rights.

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Originally posted by FMF
I am the Chief of Police here in Indonesia. So I take full responsibility for the corruption that goes on. No excuses. You got me bang to rights.
is this sort of corruption and abuse by the police common in Indonesia and if so can anything be done about it? 😠

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
[b]is this sort of corruption and abuse by the police common in Indonesia and if so can anything be done about it? 😠[/b]
Yes it's fairly common. It has improved, to a degree. Changing the 'corporate culture' of the police is a horribly slow process, possibly a generational thing. Overt, ostentatious abuse like that described in the OP was more common under the Soeharto dictatorship but, at the same time, it was far less likely to to have been reported.

Unclear land rights and resulting land grabs by developers/government offices who want land that is being lived on and/or worked by 'poor people' back since anyone can remember, is an ugly ongoing thing here. When you see, from time to time, a whole neighbourhood accidentallyburn down in (say) Jakarta, expect to see a shopping mall there 2 years later.

My penny's worth is that the officers in the Bengkulu case will be in trouble behind closed doors for not nailing this enforcement job in a more discreet way, as gangsters should. No need for showy intimidation and retribution. The hidden hand, while not always so hidden, ought not be as unhidden as this, etc.

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Originally posted by FMF
The hidden hand, while not always so hidden, ought not be as unhidden as this, etc.
I'm envisioning a gangster pulling one hand out of his trenchcoat when it's silk glove snags on his coat or something and gets halfway pulled out...he is very frustrated by your wit.