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@spruce112358 said
Imagine Biden takes a vote of himself, the VP, and the Sec of State and announces a "unanimous" decision to close down Fox News until after the election.

That's what just happened in Israel.
Not exactly.

Al Jazeera is not an Israeli network, and there is a war going on.

It's stupid, yes (very little that Netanyahu has done recently is not stupid), but that's not a valid comparison.

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@sh76 said
Not exactly.

Al Jazeera is not an Israeli network, and there is a war going on.

It's stupid, yes (very little that Netanyahu has done recently is not stupid), but that's not a valid comparison.
Maybe the Gazans like having Al Jazeera there, reporting on what's happening.

EDIT: Is Gaza part of Israel? Or no.

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@sh76 - "... someone who desperately wants peace and Israeli security."

Not quite. He wants peace, Israeli security, and Palestinian land.

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@earl-of-trumps said
@sh76 - "... someone who desperately wants peace and Israeli security."

Not quite. He wants peace, Israeli security, and Palestinian land.
How about if both sides get their own state? Is that okay with you?

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@spruce112358 said
Maybe the Gazans like having Al Jazeera there, reporting on what's happening.

EDIT: Is Gaza part of Israel? Or no.
===Is Gaza part of Israel? Or no.===

Of course it's not. It's a zone at war with Israel. What's your point?

Biden is American and Fox is American and Fox operates in the US. Shutting down a domestic news organization in peacetime is obviously nothing like shutting down a foreign news organization in a war zone.

It's still stupid, though.

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@sh76 said
===Is Gaza part of Israel? Or no.===

Of course it's not. It's a zone at war with Israel. What's your point?

Biden is American and Fox is American and Fox operates in the US. Shutting down a domestic news organization in peacetime is obviously nothing like shutting down a foreign news organization in a war zone.

It's still stupid, though.
I agree it is stupid.

Biden would not even try to do it.

Certain others though ...

“We will go out and find the conspirators, not just in the government, but in the media, yes, we’re going to come after the people in the media, who lied about American citizens, who helped Joe Biden rig the elections, we’re going to come after you,” Kash Patel said...

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@sh76 said
How about if both sides get their own state? Is that okay with you?
You mean the two-state solution?

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Yes

Edit: Or three, for that matter. For those insistent that 2 states are non-viable because the Palestinian state wouldn't be contiguous (though that's not such a problem IMO), you can have the WB and Gaza be separate states.

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@sh76 said
Yes

Edit: Or three, for that matter. For those insistent that 2 states are non-viable because the Palestinian state wouldn't be contiguous (though that's not such a problem IMO), you can have the WB and Gaza be separate states.
That is the internationally preferred option.

Netenyahoo and his cronies have stated they oppose the 2-statr solution… and that they don’t want the Palestinians living in the expanded Israel.

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Netanyahu has to go for there to be real peace.

A four party deal with Abbas, the US and Saudi Arabia, which includes normalization of relations between SA and Israel, seems like a dream come true.

It would have been a long shot possibly, but Netanyahu blew the chance (for now), probably because he thinks the end of the war without total destruction of Hamas means the end of his career (and possible facing of the bribery charges still waiting for him). He might be right, but this can't be decided based on personal interests.

I can only hope the the chance will come again, for the sakes of the Israelis and the Palestinians.

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@sh76 said
Netanyahu has to go for there to be real peace.

A four party deal with Abbas, the US and Saudi Arabia, which includes normalization of relations between SA and Israel, seems like a dream come true.

It would have been a long shot possibly, but Netanyahu blew the chance (for now), probably because he thinks the end of the war without total destruction of Hamas means the end ...[text shortened]...
I can only hope the the chance will come again, for the sakes of the Israelis and the Palestinians.
Oh, Netenyahoo is definately clinging to power like a head louse clinging to a hair, dangling over the edge of vulcano.

There are many in Israel who want to grab him by the short and curlies and throw his arse in jail.

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@sh76
Cutting a highway to connect Gaza and WB makes more sense - with underpasses and overpasses so people can ignore each other.

It creates a trucking route via Jordan and Iraq to the Med and is sorely needed to promote Palestinian development.