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07 Jun 18
07 Jun 18
Originally posted by @whodeyAbsolutely. They've given the last 4 or 5 liberal dirtbags immunity and got burned for it.
If they give him immunity he will in return give them nothing.
They should do to him what Dims did to Flynn.
07 Jun 18
Originally posted by @kazetnagorraIn case you're incapable of paying attention, I didn't single anyone out here, nor was I taking part in these forums at the time. I saw it on tv, heard it on the radio, and social media was infested with it. Don't trust me? Fine, call me a liar. But don't disingenuously ask for a list of names.
Who uttered these hysterics?
07 Jun 18
Originally posted by @lemon-limeWhere on the BBC News website did you read that "nobody pleads the 5th unless they have something to hide"?
The same people you rely on for your 'news and information'
Originally posted by @kazetnagorraWhy would I need to be told this by anyone? In the US it's common knowledge that pleading the 5th usually means someone has something to hide.
Where on the BBC News website did you read that "nobody pleads the 5th unless they have something to hide"?
By the same token, refusing to give a DNA sample in a criminal investigation does not mean your name will be removed from a suspect list.
07 Jun 18
Michael Flynn pleads the 5th and left wingers shout from their bullhorns: "Guilty as charged!"
Hillary Clinton deletes 33,000 emails (emails that were demanded by the State Dept as evidence in an investigation), smashes cell phones, and uses Bleach Bit on hard drives. Reaction by left wingers? *crickets* ... nothing worth mentioning.
07 Jun 18
Originally posted by @tom-wolseyFlynn pleaded guilty to a felony. He seems to agree that he's guilty as charged.
Michael Flynn pleads the 5th and left wingers shout from their bullhorns: "Guilty as charged!"
Hillary Clinton deletes 33,000 emails (emails that were demanded by the State Dept as evidence in an investigation), smashes cell phones, and uses Bleach Bit on hard drives. Reaction by left wingers? *crickets* ... nothing worth mentioning.
Originally posted by @kazetnagorraAre you incapable of anything other than straight line, two dimensional thinking?
Flynn pleaded guilty to a felony. He seems to agree that he's guilty as charged.
There might be something Flynn doesn't want to reveal that has nothing to with any charges against him. Flynn is fully aware that Trump has been investigated for a year and a half for something he (Trump) clearly hasn't done, so why should he (Flynn) believe that he isn't also the target of a fishing expedition?
Pleading guilty is way out, a way to avoid being harrassed for years and bled dry from paying legal fees. So yeah, he's guilty of giving up and throwing in the towel for the sake of his and his family's peace of mind.
07 Jun 18
Originally posted by @lemon-limeInteresting. So Trump clearly didn't fire Comey to derail the investigation? He clearly didn't attempt to cover up evidence that the Trump Tower meeting was arranged in order to obtain dirt on Clinton?
Are you incapable of anything other than straight line, two dimensional thinking?
There might be something Flynn doesn't want to reveal that has nothing to with any charges against him. Flynn is fully aware that Trump has been investigated for a year and half for something he (Trump) clearly hasn't done, so why should he (Flynn) believe that he isn't also the target of a fishing expedition?
07 Jun 18
Originally posted by @tom-wolseyOliver North and John Poindexter got immunity for their Congressional testimony. https://www.nytimes.com/1988/06/12/opinion/the-price-of-iran-contra-immunity.html:
Absolutely. They've given the last 4 or 5 liberal dirtbags immunity and got burned for it.
Fully aware that they faced prosecution, the admiral and the colonel, both now retired, and the arms dealer, Mr. Hakim, claimed their privileges against coerced self-incrimination. The Congressional investigators were able to obtain their testimony only in exchange for a promise not to use that coerced testimony.
It turned out to be a bad idea; they both prevaricated and evaded questions in an incredible manner and their later convictions were thrown out because they have been compelled to admit criminal wrongdoing in public testimony.
In general, I don't support granting immunity to get Congressional testimony where the desired witness is facing possible criminal charges.
07 Jun 18
Originally posted by @kazetnagorraHaven't you read the Donald's tweets? He's totally innocent of everything.
Interesting. So Trump clearly didn't fire Comey to derail the investigation? He clearly didn't attempt to cover up evidence that the Trump Tower meeting was arranged in order to obtain dirt on Clinton?
07 Jun 18
Originally posted by @kazetnagorraI like reading fiction too.
Interesting. So Trump clearly didn't fire Comey to derail the investigation? He clearly didn't attempt to cover up evidence that the Trump Tower meeting was arranged in order to obtain dirt on Clinton?
But I'm mostly interested in real-time, real-world events.
07 Jun 18
Originally posted by @lemon-limeIs the sand your head is in comfortable?
I like reading fiction too.
But I'm mostly interested in real-time, real-world events.
07 Jun 18
Originally posted by @no1marauderStill haven't figured it out, have you.
Haven't you read the Donald's tweets? He's totally innocent of everything.
Much of his tweeting is for stirring up the crazies.
Originally posted by @no1marauderIs the sand in your head uncomfortable?
Is the sand your head is in comfortable?
07 Jun 18
Originally posted by @lemon-limeWhy do you think Donald Trump drafted a letter lying about the purpose of the Trump Tower meeting?
I like reading fiction too.
But I'm mostly interested in real-time, real-world events.