American Empire: Decline and Fall?

American Empire: Decline and Fall?

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My personal opinion and hope I suppose is that there will never be another US type empire
Information and other technologies are too footloose for any bloc to get a global upper hand. But I think your correct that China will emerge ( if it hasn’t already ) as the strongest economic bloc in the global economy.
It should be remembered China doesn’t seem interested in being culturally dominant outside of its natural geographic sphere of influence.
Hopefully China will grow its middle ( consumption ) class to the point where it’s less dependent on the vagaries of global consumption and evolve politically to as stable an entity as its vast population numbers will permit.

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China created the pandemic?
Seriously? That’s your conclusion?
The virus originated in China, so yea they crated this situation.

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How long according to duchess64 did they know about the virus before letting the rest of the world know? That is the bigger question.

Also, how do you know they are giving the correct numbers?

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@divegeester said
The virus originated in China, so yea they crated this situation.
No they didn’t.
The English variant started in England. Did the English create it?

Don’t be silly.

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I don't think that anyone can seriously deny the fact that the US's empire is in decline.
The signs of demise are all there. It will crumble.
How they manage this will determine their role for the coming century or so (one country more introvert, one country focussed on the Americas or two or more countries).

Russia is heading towards internal conflict, India won't be in any serious position of power for decades to come and Brasil is a mess.

As for China. Their arrogance, whether they decide to expand territory or if they remain financers, will determine how the world engages with them.
If they decide to expand territory, there is every chance that the world will gang up on them and sort the situation out.
If they retain their current international position (financing to gain influence in various countries) they will probably slip into the vaccuum the US leaves behind.

The latter, at least in the short term, is a more manageable situation. The former could get very ugly, very fast.

China also has an internal conflict which they try to hide from the world, which they try to oppress internally too. And that is the poverty situation for millions of people.
If China can't get a grasp on that, then it will slowly erode them into the same cycle they've always had and within a century a new dynasty... although it's hard to call the current cycle a dynasty... but let's keep matters simple... will knock the current keepers of power off the throne.
The Chinese government knows this. And that's where it is interesting. If they seriously tackle poverty, the middle class will grow and many people will get a better education and that will overthrow (large parts of) the current regime as well.

It will be interesting to see how China deals with this dilemma.

As for Europe. They've positioned themselves as a serious trading block. I reckon that external factors will have little influence on it or its position.
Internal factors could undermine it though.
I reckon it will depend on how well they deal with extremists in their own borders. Poland, Romenia, extreme right-wingism in other States. If they manage to control that or cut the cancer out, they'll do well in the coming century.

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Generally speaking on international matters, one doesn’t really care what Americans think.

It’s generally what they do one is worried about.