@Michael-Martin saidI expect Bish will post it when he find out that enough people are in favor of it.
Bish had posted it in here a type of version of it. If you want the truth it actually favors your team because your team is PERFECTLY balanced in each category
Categories are ratings. I am afraid to give an example in case I get it wrong.
Picture it like players in the 1200's play each other then 1300's play each other and so on. But the separation would be b ...[text shortened]... n.
I hope you were joking. I'd like to think you have a lot of years ahead of you.
MIchael
If it is the same as the one last year, I didn't like it but I am only one person. It should be what the majority want. I am tired of all the Politics to be honest.
We may have the best rounded clan but you are still 63 points up as of this Posting. I told you the reason is you still have more clans who will play you than us. You will find they will become less and less the more you win. I know, as I've seen what has happened over the years.
Metallica may very well have the best balanced Clan on the Site, although I am biased of course. As you know when I play for a Clan, I give everything I can. I want what is best for the Site, not Bish, VR, or Michael.
-VR
@Very-Rusty saidI understand. the only thing you did not get spot on is the amount of clans that play you vs us. I counted all the clans that play you and I counted all the ones that don't play us. You have 18 clans more that play you. Imagine the points my team could have if I had those clans playing us. Al has 23 clans more playing his clan than us. Nothing I can do about it. It's strange they never gave a reason and I thought they were chess friends. Plus they beat us it was not just us beating them.
I expect Bish will post it when he find out that enough people are in favor of it.
If it is the same as the one last year, I didn't like it but I am only one person. It should be what the majority want. I am tired of all the Politics to be honest.
We may have the best clan but you are still 63 points up. I told you the reason is you still have more clans who will p ...[text shortened]... a Clan, I give everything I can. I want what is best for the Site, not Bish, VR, or Michael.
-VR
very strange. I have to live with it. I hope you are doing okay.
MIchael
@Michael-Martin saidI don't know if you number are accurate on the clans playing you vs's the clan playing us.
I understand. the only thing you did not get spot on is the amount of clans that play you vs us. I counted all the clans that play you and I counted all the ones that don't play us. You have 18 clans more that play you. Imagine the points my team could have if I had those clans playing us. Al has 23 clans more playing his clan than us. Nothing I can do about it ...[text shortened]... us beating them.
very strange. I have to live with it. I hope you are doing okay.
MIchael
I do know you have a 63 point lead on Metallica as of this posting.
Al always had a lot of clans playing him, as he is considered to be fair in challenges, that is why his remark surprised me so much when he said he was backing Trev's Clan. Not something a Clan Leader should say when he makes challenges against that clan in my humble opinion.
I am doing as well as to be expected good days and bad days, you know how it is as you have your own medical issues.
-VR
@Michael-Martin saidWhy are clans avoiding you? Percieved mismatches ?
I understand. the only thing you did not get spot on is the amount of clans that play you vs us. I counted all the clans that play you and I counted all the ones that don't play us. You have 18 clans more that play you. Imagine the points my team could have if I had those clans playing us. Al has 23 clans more playing his clan than us. Nothing I can do about it ...[text shortened]... us beating them.
very strange. I have to live with it. I hope you are doing okay.
MIchael
@YolandaBKL saidno. I ALWAYS tell the leaders to feel free to change what they need to. and we will find a way to make it work. I'm flexible. I repeat that message a thousand times.
Why are clans avoiding you? Percieved mismatches ?
so if they can change the challenge if they feel they need to they can. so what is there to worry about? also I don't match so my team can win. I do my best to match my team vs another team and do my best to make it so it comes out a split. Now we know that can't happen. but at least by trying I get the most fair result.
then you just get good results and win or you are on a bad streak and lose. that part is fate.
My team loses more than any other clan. Not even close. We lose more.
Our lead over Metallica is only 51 points? we win more because we play more. It's just a matter of play a lot.
Like I have said last season and all season long that Metallica will win this year easily. their lead will start soon. They just have the best team.
But I understand and respect your point.
Michael 🙂
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@Michael-Martin said@Michael-Martin,
no. I ALWAYS tell the leaders to feel free to change what they need to. and we will find a way to make it work. I'm flexible. I repeat that message a thousand times.
so if they can change the challenge if they feel they need to they can. so what is there to worry about? also I don't match so my team can win. I do my best to match my team vs another team and do m ...[text shortened]... rt soon. They just have the best team.
But I understand and respect your point.
Michael 🙂
We are always maxed out in Clans we can play, that is the reason we can't play as many as you because fewer clans are playing us than are playing you. We have to wait until Clan Challenges are completed before we can start new ones. We work just as hard as Breaking Bad, just can't get enough Clans to play us, just that simple.
I am assuming the same thing will happen with you eventually.
Respectfully,
-VR
@Michael-Martin
"no. I ALWAYS tell the leaders to feel free to change what they need to. and we will find a way to make it work. I'm flexible. I repeat that message a thousand times."
Repeating it a thousand times does not make it true as I well know.
@lstcyr saidYou are correct.. but you are not telling the whole story. I did not say that to you nor did you or I EVER have issues with clan challenges. the reason I never said it to you is because I considered you to be one of my best friends on this site and a great friend outside the site. so to me if you wanted something changed all you had to do is change something I would have accepted anything you liked as long as the abilities of both players were equal. I at least studied and did my best with your clan. You were my friend why wouldn't I?
@Michael-Martin
"no. I ALWAYS tell the leaders to feel free to change what they need to. and we will find a way to make it work. I'm flexible. I repeat that message a thousand times."
Repeating it a thousand times does not make it true as I well know.
Keep trashing me and see how the admins and moderators feel about it.
@Very-Rusty saidI did the math Bill. I can add. And you know better. Our team is maxed out on every single clan that will play us three each. But we play a lot less teams then you. But we had this problem last year when we won the championship. We are always maxed out. It's how we out work everyone. It's the only chance to win against your team. But with playing less clans by 18 it takes it's toll. I've gotten answers from some leaders and the answers were really strange. I just have to deal with it and hope they come around. I'm done in here. All my best to you.
@Michael-Martin,
We are always maxed out in Clans we can play, that is the reason we can't play as many as you because fewer clans are playing us than are playing you. We have to wait until Clan Challenges are completed before we can start new ones. We work just as hard as Breaking Bad, just can't get enough Clans to play us, just that simple.
I am assuming the same thing will happen with you eventually.
Respectfully,
-VR
@Michael-Martin said@Michael-Martin,
I did the math Bill. I can add. And you know better. Our team is maxed out on every single clan that will play us three each. But we play a lot less teams then you. But we had this problem last year when we won the championship. We are always maxed out. It's how we out work everyone. It's the only chance to win against your team. But with playing less clans by ...[text shortened]... ange. I just have to deal with it and hope they come around. I'm done in here. All my best to you.
Then you must have less Clans playing you than when I was there if this is true. We are always maxed out, and can't start new challenges until the current ones are done as you well know.
I find it hard to believe you play 18 less Clans than we do, I will have to look more into it. I know you get a lot of games with Templar Oath and seem to win the majority of them with them only winning a few and not a very high precentage in games. I best just leave it at that, just want you to know I personally didn't miss that.
I never was for a clan leader being in another clan when he/she is making Clan Challenges against the clan they are in. Doesn't matter if they themselves can't play in it, they are still the ones making the challenges, and those optics never looked good to me, no matter who it was or what the clan was.
To the best of my knowledge, Metallica have never had another Clan leader in the Clan unless it was someone who just made there own clan but I don't believe Fred would ever play them. I knew a few guys did make their own Clan over the years as did people in other Clans just to get a Vote when only Clan Leaders could have a Vote, I am very happy it doesn't work that way anymore and hope I played a small part in that.
Kindest Regaards,
As Always,
-VR
@Michael-Martin saidThere is a lot of less than stellar history with Breaking Bad challenges I know.
no. I ALWAYS tell the leaders to feel free to change what they need to. and we will find a way to make it work. I'm flexible. I repeat that message a thousand times.
so if they can change the challenge if they feel they need to they can. so what is there to worry about? also I don't match so my team can win. I do my best to match my team vs another team and do m ...[text shortened]... rt soon. They just have the best team.
But I understand and respect your point.
Michael 🙂
However I will say here that as a new clan leader, my transactions and conversations with Michael and Breaking Bad this year have been positive and enjoyable.
I considered Michael my friend.
As he doesn't seem to have too many of those in this forum these days, I thought it was appropriate to stand up.
People do change as life circumstances change.
That's been my experience anyway.
@Bish saidThank you my friend. Takes guts to come in and say what you did. I've have to say on my part I believe my challenges were always my best. Rusty will tell anyone while he was with us I told him all the time and he said it to I always tried to make the challenges as razor close as I could. The few that think what they do don't realize my team loses more games than any other clan. we win slightly more but that might change soon. You can see losses now on the clan page of mine.
There is a lot of less than stellar history with Breaking Bad challenges I know.
However I will say here that as a new clan leader, my transactions and conversations with Michael and Breaking Bad this year have been positive and enjoyable.
I considered Michael my friend.
As he doesn't seem to have too many of those in this forum these days, I thought it was appropri ...[text shortened]... o stand up.
People do change as life circumstances change.
That's been my experience anyway.
I do my best that is all I can do. thank you very much for being so kind I'm grateful.
I'm honored to call you my friend.
Michael
@Michael-Martin saidThis is a complete falsehood. I tried several years ago to set up a match with your clan and you turned down several change attempts. You finally said that you knew better than I did what matches were fair. I did not agree and have never played your clan again.
You are correct.. but you are not telling the whole story. I did not say that to you nor did you or I EVER have issues with clan challenges. the reason I never said it to you is because I considered you to be one of my best friends on this site and a great friend outside the site. so to me if you wanted something changed all you had to do is change something I would ...[text shortened]... my friend why wouldn't I?
Keep trashing me and see how the admins and moderators feel about it.
@lstcyr saidI would never have done that to you. My god Larry I gave you my club because I knew you would make it better and you have. I would not have ever have spoken to you out of turn like that. I had so much respect for you. I remember what happened and it wasn't that. Not even close. I won't discuss all that in here.
This is a complete falsehood. I tried several years ago to set up a match with your clan and you turned down several change attempts. You finally said that you knew better than I did what matches were fair. I did not agree and have never played your clan again.
But that is completly false. I don't talk to my friends that way. Especially you. I might have said once things got sour. That I could believe. Back then I was younger , sick, and I should have known better but I didn't. And I apologize for all that happened because looking back it was all stupid. And I loved playing your team it was fun. You have great team there.
I won't argue back and forth. And I've been on here for almost 20 years and my team has won three out of the last four years. I'd say I think I've done my homework and the results show it. But all this is for fun. Win or lose who cares?
You just seem to want to argue and I don't understand it. But I said my peace. If you really want to know what happened PM me and I'll tell you. You will remember it soon as I say it. How it got started was completely my fault. And I am very sorry for that.
Hope you are well.
Michael