09 Apr 10
Originally posted by SeitseI don't disagree with you, and maybe I didn't use 'proud' in its true context?
I think we're placed in two different frequencies on this issue.
Pride as an emotion involves the development of a sense
of self. Perhaps you are confusing pride with joy?
I am [b]joyful of being Mexican, if that responds your question,
because it has given the chance of seeing and understanding
many things which perhaps I would not have been face ...[text shortened]... oud" of your skin
color? Are you "proud" to be a male?
Dangerous stuff, I tell you.[/b]
I used a phrase 'proud to be English' - which if you dissect it is gramatically incorrect as 'proud' does pertaine to something an individual has achieved - so you'd be correct.
However, like I said, it's a phrase...and I'm sure if you look at a lot of other phrases they too would be gramatically incorrect!
Will you stop beating me over the head about it now please?
😉
09 Apr 10
Originally posted by blade68Let's say that you're joyful to be English.
I don't disagree with you, and maybe I didn't use 'proud' in its true context?
I used a phrase 'proud to be English' - which if you dissect it is gramatically incorrect as 'proud' does pertaine to something an individual has achieved - so you'd be correct.
However, like I said, it's a phrase...and I'm sure if you look at a lot of other phrases they too wou ...[text shortened]... tically incorrect!
Will you stop beating me over the head about it now please?
😉
That, my friend, is a noble and kind feeling.
If only now Chelsea would win the EPL and
make your joy even greater 🙂
09 Apr 10
Originally posted by blade68LOL, did you take debate lessons from Very Rusty?
Yes, the FACTS are that you were born, work, and live in SA...everything else you've mentioned is your opinion.
...and then when you run out of anything constructive to say you resort to name calling.
I could respond with a quippy, undermining comment, but you know what - I'm not 12 years old anymore.
At least 12 year olds know when they're wrong and can admit it.
09 Apr 10
Originally posted by SeitseBecause there is a commonness that you share with your parents or even countrymen. If someone tries to rob your grandmother and she manages to defend herself despite of her age, you wouldn't feel proud? BS. Or wouldn't you feel a sense of pride if Mexico won the World Cup?
Proud? I love them, which is different. I am also grateful for
their effort in raising this little headache.
Why would I be proud of something I didn't choose or fought
for?
You're like the people who look at emotions and discover they are not always the product of rational thinking. Whoop-de-doo.
09 Apr 10
Originally posted by PalynkaI can tell you the same I said blade: I'd joyful, not proud.
Because there is a commonness that you share with your parents or even countrymen. If someone tries to rob your grandmother and she manages to defend herself despite of her age, you wouldn't feel proud? BS. Or wouldn't you feel a sense of pride if Mexico won the World Cup?
You're like the people who look at emotions and discover they are not always the product of rational thinking. Whoop-de-doo.
In your example, I would be proud of my granny's courage,
of course. But feeling "proud" of her just for the coincidence that
she happened to spawn a human who later on spawned me...
come on.
As for the other example, if Mexico wins the WC (which is unlikely)
I would feel tremendous joy and I would spam your threads for the
next 4 years bragging about the triumph over Portugal 😛 But, pride?
Yeah, well, I would be proud of the 22 guys who finally managed to
put aside the eternal defeatism of national football. But that's different
than being proud of myself for just "being" something.
09 Apr 10
Originally posted by SeitseIs it different? I don't buy it, sorry. You've been brainwashed by your Catholic education into thinking that pride is necessarily bad. 😛
I can tell you the same I said blade: I'd joyful, not proud.
In your example, I would be proud of my granny's [b]courage,
of course. But feeling "proud" of her just for the coincidence that
she happened to spawn a human who later on spawned me...
come on.
As for the other example, if Mexico wins the WC (which is unlikely)
I would feel tremendou ...[text shortened]... al football. But that's different
than being proud of myself for just "being" something.[/b]