23 Mar 08
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI would reject only the word (Him) since it would be grammatically incorrect because the verb "to be" takes the same case after it as it does before it.
Two Principles of Human Enlightenment:
#1. Yes, there is a God.
#2. You are not He (Him).
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Originally posted by muppymanHe is the subjective pronoun: He stole my eggs.
I would reject only the word (Him) since it would be grammatically incorrect because the verb "to be" takes the same case after it as it does before it.
Him is the objective pronoun: It was him who stole my eggs.
As the pronoun is in the objective state, the correct expression is therefore "You are not Him." You are correct, however, that the verb is uninflected.
EDIT: You could say, "He is not you." But then the verb is inflected.
24 Mar 08
Originally posted by Conrau KI agree with most of what you say, especially your examples using part of the conjugation of the verb "to steal" and that rule certainly applies to all verbs in the English language, with the sole exception of the conjugation of the verb "to be" When using that verb, the subjective noun or pronoun remains subjective after the verb, just as it does in Latin grammar. E.g. It was I, I am he, You are not He is, I submit, the correct grammar, although common usage disregards the rule.
He is the subjective pronoun: He stole my eggs.
Him is the objective pronoun: It was him who stole my eggs.
As the pronoun is in the objective state, the correct expression is therefore "You are not Him." You are correct, however, that the verb is uninflected.
EDIT: You could say, "He is not you." But then the verb is inflected.
24 Mar 08
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Originally posted by Conrau KIt's common in everyday talk to follow the verb "to be" with object pronouns, but that practice is not formally correct. What you say would be true if "to be" and its related forms were transitive verbs, but they are not transitive verbs. In this case, the pronoun takes the form of the subject complement of a linking verb. The proper pronoun case is subjective: You are not He.
He is the subjective pronoun: He stole my eggs.
Him is the objective pronoun: It was him who stole my eggs.
As the pronoun is in the objective state, the correct expression is therefore "You are not Him." You are correct, however, that the verb is uninflected.
EDIT: You could say, "He is not you." But then the verb is inflected.
EDIT: Basically what muppyman already said. I just read his response.
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24 Mar 08
Originally posted by Conrau KI agree with most of what you say, especially your examples using part of the conjugation of the verb "to steal" and that rule certainly applies to all verbs in the English language, with the sole exception of the conjugation of the verb "to be" When using that verb, the subjective noun or pronoun remains subjective after the verb.
He is the subjective pronoun: He stole my eggs.
Him is the objective pronoun: It was him who stole my eggs.
As the pronoun is in the objective state, the correct expression is therefore "You are not Him." You are correct, however, that the verb is uninflected.
EDIT: You could say, "He is not you." But then the verb is inflected.
My fault. The verb "to be" is copular in this instance. So the two pronouns are equivalent. As LemonJello said, I got confused between the two, mistaking the verb as transitive - with my example "to steal".
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24 Mar 08
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby#1 - Might not be true
Two Principles of Human Enlightenment:
#1. Yes, there is a God.
#2. You are not He (Him).
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#2 - If #1 is true, I believe I am God. At least I can prove I exist, which puts me ahead of all other gods there are out there.
24 Mar 08
Originally posted by serigadoGod is a gentleman. He always respects the excercise of your free will and wiould never coerce it. He has revealed
#1 - Might not be true
#2 - If #1 is true, I believe I am God. At least I can prove I exist, which puts me ahead of all other gods there are out there.
Himself to mankind (in the design and function of the natural world, The First Advent of Christ and in The Word
of Truth) and is offering you a free gift. You have a perfect right to ignore and/or reject it. Choice is up to you.