Spirituality
06 May 05
06 May 05
Originally posted by bbarrThat seems to be the consensus in science - which too bad. I makes it appear as if some scientist are afraid to question some things. We can debate all issues - but some are now taboo - evolutionism, race, sex. Ask difficult questions about these things and you are automatically labeled a kook, a raciest, a sexist, a "fundie". But that sadly is an effective way to discourage opposition.
Yep, your post is spot on. I'm pretty sure prn (Paul) recognized this at last, and gave up debating the issue. When confronted with a creationist (or their brethren the "intelligent" design theorists), it is best to walk away.
Yep. It is safer not to question some things. Go with the flow. It's better for you. Don't think so hard.
I remember debating prn - and he was very good. He certainly out debated me - but it was educational. My head is still spinning. And I can understand if debating might wear him out. I get tired of responding to ignorant attracts. So I ignore them as best I can. But when I think there is an honest inquiry - I try to respond to it. I think you do too bbarr.
06 May 05
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Originally posted by ColettiYes, it's not practical enough. To start, walk me through the logistics of ...
You have a problem with dino eggs?? What's wrong with the answer? Not practical enough?
Gathering them -- Two of each sort, remember, and God can't simply inspire the eggs to walk to the ark, so the Ark Crew would have to have gathered them manually.
Incubating them -- How? Sunlight? Surrogate mothers such as lions?
Keeping the dinosaurs once hatched -- They don't all incubate throughout the length of the storm do they? What about the newborn carnivores? What do they eat? For that matter, what about the giant herbivores who require enormous quantities of vegetation?
Additionally, how did Noah ensure he got a male and female?
06 May 05
Originally posted by ColettiThere is consensus on the big picture, which is why it's called the "theory" of evolution. There is also lively debate among legitimate scientists about the what the exact process is.
That seems to be the consensus in science - which too bad. I makes it appear as if some scientist are afraid to question some things. We can debate all issues - but some are now taboo - evolutionism, race, sex. Ask difficult questions about these things and you are automatically labeled a kook, a raciest, a sexist, a "fundie". But that sadly is an effe ...[text shortened]... t when I think there is an honest inquiry - I try to respond to it. I think you do too bbarr.
06 May 05
Originally posted by frogstompFrogstomp: " ..... legitimate scientists ..... "
There is consensus on the big picture, which is why it's called the "theory" of evolution. There is also lively debate among legitimate scientists about the what the exact process is.
..... lol ..... you little devil you ....... 😀
07 May 05
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Originally posted by DoctorScribblesGathering them -- Two of each sort, remember, and God can't simply inspire the eggs to walk to the ark, so the Ark Crew would have to have gathered them manually.
Yes, it's not practical enough. To start, walk me through the logistics of ...
Gathering them -- Two of each sort, remember, and God can't simply inspire the eggs to walk to the ark, so the Ark Crew would have to have gathered ...[text shortened]... on?
Additionally, how did Noah ensure he got a male and female?
That shouldn't be a problem.
Incubating them -- How? Sunlight? Surrogate mothers such as lions?
I'm sure it was plenty warm in the ark. I was certainly crowded. And lions might have made for fine incubators.
Keeping the dinosaurs once hatched -- They don't all incubate throughout the length of the storm do they? What about the newborn carnivores? What do they eat? For that matter, what about the giant herbivores who require enormous quantities of vegetation?
The brought food, and seven pairs of each clean animal - so meat would be plentiful.
Additionally, how did Noah ensure he got a male and female?
I think the creator of the universe could handle such a minor detail.
But I'm not keen on the egg theory. Eggs weren't mentioned - so I'd expect the infant dinos were more likely.
In the end, it's not relevant. This is the Almighty that brings this about. The ark was so large, that God had to close the door after everyone boarded. No doubt food and water and how many stalls or what kept the carnivores from eating the herbivores is just so much speculation. If it's not part of the record, it wasn't considered important. It's like speculating about the color of Napoleon's socks or wondering what Jesus favorite food was when he was growing up.
07 May 05
Originally posted by rwingettThere is no such thing as wasting time if you are giving God the Glory.
I don't understand why so many intelligent people waste their time arguing with creationists about evolution. They simply aren't worth the effort. Its counterproductive to even give creationists a springboard to vomit forth their antiquated views in. They should simply be ignored. Or publicly ridiculed if they must be addressed at all. People don't spend ...[text shortened]... should either be ignored or have scorn heaped upon them. They are not worthy of serious debate.
There is time wasted in doing the sin you are trapped in.
07 May 05
Originally posted by ColettiI never know with you guys, but are you REALLY NOT JOKING? You actually BELIEVE the Noah story of a world wide flood that destroyed all life on Earth (except water animals and the "two by two" that went on the ark) REALLY HAPPENED? If so, the next time you say ANYTHING regarding science, I will greet it with a LMAO.
[b]Gathering them -- Two of each sort, remember, and God can't simply inspire the eggs to walk to the ark, so the Ark Crew would have to have gathered them manually.
That shouldn't be a problem.
Incubating them -- How? Sunlight? Surrogate mothers such as lions?
I'm sure it was plenty warm in the ark. I was certainly crowded. And ...[text shortened]... e color of Napoleon's socks or wondering what Jesus favorite food was when he was growing up.
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07 May 05
Originally posted by ivanhoeWhat exactly is the Catholic Church's position on evolution these days, Ivanhoe? It seems to me that one of the Popes grudgingly conceded that perhaps there was something to evolution after all, but I'm not really certain of that. Care to enlighten us?
.... that settles that question then 😀