Originally posted by Pianoman1
I'm sorry, googlefudge, but i think you have your facts wrong here. The atheist's position is a positive disbelief in a god. He does not take his position out of an absence of evidence. That is the position of the agnostic. The agnostic doesn't believe in god because he has no evidence. He is keeping his options open. The atheist positively disbelieves. He ...[text shortened]... lines of enquiry and become, like the believer, closed to all evidence. Both are inflexible.
I am sorry but tell me precisely how you get to decide what MY position is? (rhetorical, you don't, nobody but
atheists get to define what atheism means, and we have, I have many links in my bio)
Every single major atheist organisation, and all the famous tv atheists (including the four horsemen of atheism
(one deceased)) and every atheist I have ever met or talked to defines atheism as an absence of belief in a god,
not a belief in the absence of god.
Also about 50% of atheists are she's not he's.
Atheism is the absence of belief, agnosticism is about claims of knowledge. read my bio for details.
So I am sorry Pianoman but you are talking rubbish, trying to define your opponents position to something you
find it easier to argue against is called a strawman fallacy, nobody here is going to fall for it.
EDIT: and for those who haven't/wont read my bio.... hear it is.
If you believe in god and claim to know he exists then you're a "gnostic theist".
If you believe in god and don't know if he exists then you're an "agnostic theist".
If you don't believe in god and don't know if he exists then you're an "agnostic atheist".
If you don't believe in god and claim to know he doesn't exist then you're a "gnostic atheist".
I am an Agnostic Atheist....
But this tells you almost nothing about me.
In the same way that telling you I don't believe in the Easter bunny tells you almost nothing about me.
It is a statement of the absence of belief.
http://www.rejectionofpascalswager.net/atheistdefine.html
http://www.atheists.org/atheism
http://www.atheistalliance.org/atheism
http://www.rejectionofpascalswager.net/pascal.html
http://www.rejectionofpascalswager.net/atheistmoral.html
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=143800&page=1