11 Jun 12
Originally posted by FMFThese three systems of percetion represent a primary difference between the human race and the pyramidal food chain which are without souls.
Be that as it may, but "empiricism, rationalism and belief" have no impact whatsoever - and most certainly can create nothing remotely akin to an "absolute truth" - about "a life to come" after this lifetime.
If these attributes have no mpact, we are indeed a sorry and hopeless beyond any and all creatures beyond our capacity to ever fathom.
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11 Jun 12
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyYour self-pity and hopelessness in the face of death, no matter how intense or sincere, have no impact on the objective reality of food chains, systems of perception, or death.
These three systems of percetion represent a primary difference between the human race and the pyramidal food chain which are without souls.
If these attributes have no mpact, we are indeed a sorry and hopeless beyond any and all creatures beyond our capacity to ever fathom.
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11 Jun 12
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI am starting to agree with you. My time is clearly wasted on this thread.
Unfortunately you have no present frame of reference and, therefore, lack all capacity to conceptualize and understand.
You already know everything. All manner of falsehood has been sucked in by the vacuum pump within your eternal soul. .
11 Jun 12
Originally posted by FMFFMF, you're missing the entire focal point again. Decision/Action point of impact is during
Your self-pity and hopelessness in the face of death, no matter how intense or sincere, have no impact on the objective reality of food chains, systems of perception, or death.
the empty life lived before eventual physical death. Soul itself, the real you, never dies.
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11 Jun 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobiesome people can overcome difficulties and adverse circumstances after coming to allah, vishna or willy wonka.
empirical evidence, nil! Indeed how are you going to explain away all those that have
overcome all manner of difficulties and adverse circumstances after coming to an
accurate knowledge of the Christ and his teachings, hmmm?
only a true god could overcome the difficulties and adverse circumstances of everyone who came to him. none of the characters above, nor jesus, nor biblegod can do this. ergo, none of them are true gods.
11 Jun 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieno, the script was for a general diety. you wanted to discuss the specific case of christs and i put the script in that perspective. christ cannot overcome the difficulties of everyone who come to him. ergo, he is no god.
pity that, the assertion was not made on any other basis other than the teachings of
Christ, try sticking to the script.
11 Jun 12
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI'm not missing your point at all. Your point is that if people don't agree with you when you claim the "soul itself, the real you, never dies" then you think their lives are "empty". Pretty unsophisticated really, and not a point one can really "miss" seeing as it is one that is hackneyed beyond belief.
FMF, you're missing the entire focal point again. Decision/Action point of impact is during
the empty life lived before eventual physical death. Soul itself, the real you, never dies.
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11 Jun 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobiehere is the fixed version of that verse:
second post made by op and the one that the comments with regard to promises being fulfilled or otherwise were made,
Come unto me all of you who are heavy laden (conflicted within your immortal souls) and I will give you rest."
a direct quotation from, Matthew 11:28
[matthew 11:28 fixed] come unto me all of you who are heavy laden and i will maybe give you rest. i might decide not to, or maybe it's not in my power to do so. in such a case, you could try some other mythical creature, or take up a hobby.
Originally posted by VoidSpiritFAIL, your assertions find no basis in the Greek text, like your assertions that a person
here is the fixed version of that verse:
[matthew 11:28 fixed] come unto me all of you who are heavy laden and i will maybe give you rest. i might decide not to, or maybe it's not in my power to do so. in such a case, you could try some other mythical creature, or take up a hobby.
will not find refreshment, without substantiation.
11 Jun 12
Originally posted by FMFWhatever you say.
I'm not missing your point at all. Your point is that if people don't agree with you when you claim the "soul itself, the real you, never dies" then you think their lives are "empty". Pretty unsophisticated really, and not a point one can really "miss" seeing as it is one that is hackneyed beyond belief.
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