An avowed atheist lived in a pretty cottage with his wife and little girl, of whom he was very fond. Once he became seriously ill and his devoted wife asked a Christian friend to come and speak to him about the truth in Christ.

The sick man greeted him with oaths and curses and abused his wife for having asked him to come. "Bring me a board and a piece of chalk," he demanded. His wife watched while his hot fevered fingers slowly traced in capital letters the words, "GOD IS NOWHERE." "There," said the sick man, "that is my creed. Place it at the foot of the bed so I can see it every time I open my eyes."

His fever arose and delirium came on. The little girl was taken to a Christian home where she was tenderly cared for and where she began to learn to read. After the father had somewhat recovered, the loving little daughter was brought home to visit him. He was deeply touched at seeing her again and had her lie down with her head on the pillow beside him.

"What have you been doing since I have been ill," he tenderly asked. "Oh, they have taken such good care of me and I have learned to read," she exclaimed.

"Have you?" said the fond father. "I wonder if you could read the words at the foot of my bed?" "Yes, father, let me try," said the little one, and she began slowly to spell out the words. "God is"-then she hesitated. "Oh, father, I've got it. GOD IS NOW HERE," and added, "Yes, father, so He is, and He has been here all the time you have been ill."

The father choked with emotion and gently said, "You must go now, darling." As soon as the door was closed he burst into tears of repentance and prayed aloud for God's forgiveness, for he saw that his boasted creed was nothing but his own invention. Broken-hearted over his sins, he came to know Jesus Christ as the One who bore all his transgressions. Soon afterward he was restored to health and to his loving family.

Originally posted by RJHinds
An avowed atheist lived in a pretty cottage with his wife and little girl, of whom he was very fond. Once he became seriously ill and his devoted wife asked a Christian friend to come and speak to him about the truth in Christ.

The sick man greeted him with oaths and curses and abused his wife for having asked him to come. "Bring me a board and a piece of ...[text shortened]... . Soon afterward he was restored to health and to his loving family.

Originally posted by rwingett
But that's not how it goes in the real world. You have scores of people who fervently pray and you know what? They die anyway. They die at the same rate and under the same circumstances as everyone else. The universe behaves exactly as if there were no god.

Well that's a load of Bollocks.

For once rwingett got something right.

The universe acts exactly like there is no god.

Mainly due to there not being one.

Originally posted by googlefudge
Well that's a load of Bollocks.

For once rwingett got something right.

The universe acts exactly like there is no god.

Mainly due to there not being one.

Originally posted by RJHinds


"Have you?" said the fond father. "I wonder if you could read the words at the foot of my bed?" "Yes, father, let me try," said the little one, and she began slowly to spell out the words. "God is"-then she hesitated. "Oh, father, I've got it. GOD IS NOW HERE," and added, "Yes, father, so He is, and He has been here all the time you have been ill."

Th ...[text shortened]... ansgressions. Soon afterward he was restored to health and to his loving family.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
sorry rj, i dont get it. why has the father turned to god? is it because his daughter believes or because he is about to die, im unclear on why he suddenly decides god exists? what is the purpose of the story?
i know people who have turned to religion when they have lost people, but thats just a natural reaction to not wanting them to be gone forever. ...[text shortened]... is a similar thing, a fear of not wanting life to be over. it doesnt in anyway prove god exists.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Have you become sure there is no God now after discussing it with me?

Originally posted by googlefudge
Oh I was sure that there are no gods long before meeting you.

I am not 100% absolute certain that there are no gods, and never can or will be, but I have
been sure since junior school.
In much the same way that I am sure that there is no Father Christmas, elves, or leprechauns.
(all of which btw are much more plausible than your god concept).

D ...[text shortened]... ppened.

I believe in the existence of things based on evidence and reason, and never faith.

Originally posted by rwingett
But that's not how it goes in the real world. You have scores of people who fervently pray and you know what? They die anyway. They die at the same rate and under the same circumstances as everyone else. The universe behaves exactly as if there were no god.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Where does the information come from that is in the genes that accounts
for how we we reproduce and how intelligent we are?

http://www.cosmicfingerprints.com/dna-atheists/

https://www.dna2art.com/blog/artistic-display-of-intelligence/

Originally posted by stellspalfie
so are you saying that god wants people to have cystic fibrosis, sickle cell disease, cancer, huntingtons, hemophilia and all the other horrible genetic diseases................way to go god!!!!

there are explanations to your question. but lets say there isnt, it STILL doesnt mean there is a god. just because you dont know why something happens doesn ...[text shortened]... stopped because they hadnt worked something out yet "we dont know why x+y=z so it must be god"

Originally posted by googlefudge
Oh I was sure that there are no gods long before meeting you.

I am not 100% absolute certain that there are no gods, and never can or will be, but I have
been sure since junior school.
In much the same way that I am sure that there is no Father Christmas, elves, or leprechauns.
(all of which btw are much more plausible than your god concept).

D ...[text shortened]... ppened.

I believe in the existence of things based on evidence and reason, and never faith.

Originally posted by googlefudge
If I had been presented with anything resembling evidence for the existence for a god or gods then
I would definitely changes my stance. But that hasn't happened.

Originally posted by Suzianne
You must come to Him through faith. Any other path is useless.