Originally posted by Scriabin
but he was a wonderful guy -- and think of all the people who would lose their authority if we accepted the idea that Jesus was just a man, like the Buddha, with some interesting ideas.

The problem is that there are many wonderful guys in history. Some of whom have been ignored because of the attention that Jesus was given.

Most of the people who would lose their authority if we accepted the fact that Jesus was just a man deserve to lose their authority.

Originally posted by generalissimo
What if all religions were wrong, and failed to understand what God is really about?

Maybe we didn't get what Jesus' message was all about.

If we had, our world would have been much better.

Of course, this is just a question, it may not be true, but anyway let's think out of the box just this time.

So the whole world believes in the divinity of Jesus now?

Originally posted by scherzo
So the whole world believes in the divinity of Jesus now?

no

Originally posted by Agerg
no

He didn't bother to mention any of the holy figures of the other 2/3 of the world. Maybe Mohammed was correct.

Originally posted by scherzo
He didn't bother to mention any of the holy figures of the other 2/3 of the world. Maybe Mohammed was correct.

What if all religions were wrong, and failed to understand what God is really about?

Maybe we didn't get what Jesus' (and/or Mohammed's) messages were all about.

If we had, our world would have been much better.

Of course, this is just a question, it may not be true, but anyway let's think out of the box just this time.


Fixed: Can we continue now?🙄

Originally posted by divegeester
[b]What if all religions were wrong, and failed to understand what God is really about?

Maybe we didn't get what Jesus' (and/or Mohamed's) messages were all about.

If we had, our world would have been much better.

Of course, this is just a question, it may not be true, but anyway let's think out of the box just this time.


Fixed: Can we continue now?🙄[/b]

What about the Jews, the Buddhists, the Hindus, ....

ok, I'll shut up here now.

Originally posted by scherzo
He didn't bother to mention any of the holy figures of the other 2/3 of the world. Maybe Mohammed was correct.

Mohammed was probably wrong, just like joseph smith was.

Originally posted by generalissimo
Mohammed was probably wrong, just like joseph smith was.

You have nothing to prove that. Islam is the fastest growing religion on Earth right now.

Originally posted by divegeester
Currently on a macro level, there is precious little evidence of people leading this type of life and what organised churches there are, are often run by charlatans who bring the name of our God into disrepute.

And properly so -- "our God?"

what a silly idea.

Originally posted by PsychoPawn
The problem is that there are many wonderful guys in history. Some of whom have been ignored because of the attention that Jesus was given.

Most of the people who would lose their authority if we accepted the fact that Jesus was just a man deserve to lose their authority.

I think you are challenged by irony or sarcasm, no?

Originally posted by scherzo
He didn't bother to mention any of the holy figures of the other 2/3 of the world. Maybe Mohammed was correct.

maybe he wasn't. Maybe he was as big an egomaniac or just plan maniac as most so-called "holy men" or "prophets."

I know, I know, he's your fav -- big deal.


Verse of the Moment

Narrated 'Amr bin Maimun:
During the pre-Islamic period of ignorance I saw a she-monkey surrounded by a number of monkeys. They were all stoning it, because it had committed illegal sexual intercourse. I too, stoned it along with them.
The Hadith, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 188


What about it, going to issue a fatwa now?

Originally posted by divegeester
Christianity, (Jesus) teaches that “without me you can do nothing”, and that the purpose of spiritual regeneration is to enable the believer to experience a new spirit enabled life through the power of the spirit of god.

Going by that logic, since i'm no expert on the matter and in fact am an atheist (you caught me on the humanism bit), does that mean that someone who doesn't believe in Jesus and/or God, but lives his life abiding by Jesus' and God's laws, will still be damned for eternity?

I'm not trying to act silly, I am genuinely curious

Originally posted by banx99
Going by that logic, since i'm no expert on the matter and in fact am an atheist (you caught me on the humanism bit), does that mean that someone who doesn't believe in Jesus and/or God, but lives his life abiding by Jesus' and God's laws, will still be damned for eternity?

I'm not trying to act silly, I am genuinely curious

silly question

Originally posted by Scriabin
I think you are challenged by irony or sarcasm, no?

Not usually, but those are things that aren't very well expressed on text based fora.

Originally posted by Scriabin
silly question

and the answer?