03 Nov 09
Originally posted by FabianFnasmy bet is that he is trying to demonstrate you damned infidels that your whole life has been a waste and you need to repent and convert. like yesterday.
I think josephw has his own answer to that question. Fundamentalists usually do.
My follow up question is - can you prove it?
and before you do that, ask joseph which is the true religion so you don't need to go through 2 conversions
03 Nov 09
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Originally posted by Zahlanzi
if you ask for imagination from an atheist you might not like the outcome.
Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world
You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
Agreed. 😞
04 Nov 09
Originally posted by josephwYes. You have space, matter,(Of course energy and matter are manifestations of the same thing), and abstractions. Abstractions of course are not possible without space and matter(energy). God is an example of an abstraction.🙄
Is there anything else besides space and matter?
04 Nov 09
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Originally posted by ZahlanziOf course it is so.
my bet is that he is trying to demonstrate you damned infidels that your whole life has been a waste and you need to repent and convert. like yesterday.
and before you do that, ask joseph which is the true religion so you don't need to go through 2 conversions
Joseph and all other fundamentalists are dead sure that they have the ultimate Truth ready for everyone who cares to listen. The funny thing is that there are as many ultimate Truths as there are fundamentalists in the world so what Truth is the Right one?
I don't think god likes fundamentalists. God will send all to hell eventually, the hell of fundamentalists, where they all can sit and persuade eachother.
04 Nov 09
Originally posted by SwissGambityou have to keep readingImagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someda ...[text shortened]... e
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
Agreed. 😞
04 Nov 09
Originally posted by FabianFnasJoseph and all other fundamentalists are dead sure that they have the ultimate Truth ready for everyone who cares to listen.
Of course it is so.
Joseph and all other fundamentalists are dead sure that they have the ultimate Truth ready for everyone who cares to listen. The funny thing is that there are as many ultimate Truths as there are fundamentalists in the world so what Truth is the Right one?
I don't think god likes fundamentalists. God will send all to hell eventually, the hell of fundamentalists, where they all can sit and persuade eachother.
Bull-loney. You have an extremists view which is a distortion of what a fundamentalist is.
04 Nov 09
Originally posted by 667joeAbstractions of course are not possible without space and matter(energy). God is an example of an abstraction.
Yes. You have space, matter,(Of course energy and matter are manifestations of the same thing), and abstractions. Abstractions of course are not possible without space and matter(energy). God is an example of an abstraction.🙄
Bingo!
04 Nov 09
Originally posted by josephwYou're right in the fact that fundamentalists are more extrem than ordinary religious people. That's the reason that terrorists most often are recruited in fundamentalist movements.
[b]Joseph and all other fundamentalists are dead sure that they have the ultimate Truth ready for everyone who cares to listen.
Bull-loney. You have an extremists view which is a distortion of what a fundamentalist is.[/b]
Fundamentalists people don't have any ultimate Truth in common. They have one Truth each. And Each is very persistant in their beliefs that his, and his only, is the very ultimate Truth. A grandiose paradox, if you ask me.
06 Nov 09
Originally posted by jaywillWith an absolute certainty, we know nothing.
Can anything be [b]absolutely proved?
Seems to absolutely prove anything one would have to know everything there is to know.
No human knows absolutely everything there is to know.[/b]
With a probable certainty we know a great deal.
But we know for sure that we don't know it all.
I've heard scientists say: "When we understand everything there is to understand, then I'll quit."
As in the search for the Higgs particle. "I don't want anyone to find it, it's much more fun if we would be forced to the drawing board again and produce another theory of the thing."
"No human knows absolutely everything there is to know." Not only any human, more precisely, "not humanity" and further "ever". Haleluja to that.
06 Nov 09
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Originally posted by FabianFnasNothing can be absolutely proved by humans.
With an absolute certainty, we know nothing.
With a probable certainty we know a great deal.
But we know for sure that we don't know it all.
I've heard scientists say: "When we understand everything there is to understand, then I'll quit."
As in the search for the Higgs particle. "I don't want anyone to find it, it's much more fun if we would be for y any human, more precisely, "not humanity" and further "ever". Haleluja to that.
What about this question?
Can reasoning lead man to know truth ?
Oh, by the way is that Higgs particle what they use to call Omega Minus ??