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Mistake.
Thought it was Dive speaking.
Thought it was Dive speaking.
@sonship saidIt was, I’m here, speaking. I am speaking.
Mistake.
Thought it was Dive speaking.
@divegeester saidAnd saying nothing of substance.
It was, I’m here, speaking. I am speaking.
@secondson saidOh you must have missed my post at the bottom of the previous page. I was replying to Sonship’s OP where he has reintroduced the topic of his plagiarism, note that HE reintroduced it.
And saying nothing of substance.
I replied:
“You forgot to say “without citing the source” “crediting the author” or generally “ripping off someone else’s intellectual property and passing it of as my own”
The “substance” you say is lacking is that sonship has included a statement about using other people’s words but has craftily left off the important piece about honestly in terms of citations, references, acknowledgments. You know, displaying general every day intellectual honesty.
Perhaps you would like to comment on that “substance”?
In Him [Christ] was life, and the life was the light of men. (John 1:4)
He came to His own, and those who were His own did not receive Him.
But as many as received Him, to them He gave authority to become children of God, to those who believe in His name;
Who were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. (John 1:11-13)
CHAPTER FIVE
GOD'S DISPENSING IN THE MINISTRY OF CHRIST
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Scripture reading: Scripture Reading: John 1:14; Matt. 1:23; John 1:17-18; 14:9b-11a; 1:29; 12:31; 16:11; 3:14; 12:24; Rom. 8:3; 2 Cor. 5:21
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In God's plan, or arrangement, or dispensation, God intends to dispense Himself into His people. So dispensing means to distribute and to give. God is giving Himself and imparting Himself into His people. He is distributing Himself into His people for His people's enjoyment. Most Christians today only consider that God redeems us, saves us, and gives us strength and power. Very few Christians have the thought that God is dispensing, distributing, and imparting Himself into His chosen people. Before 1950 even we ourselves did not talk about God dispensing Himself into us. It was only after 1950, within the last thirty years, that we began to see and to minister that God is dispensing Himself into our being. What we want to emphasize in these chapters is not the dispensation but the dispensing.
"He who is joined to the Lord is one spirit." (1 Cor. 6:17)
EXPERIENCING DEATH AND RESURRECTION
TO LIVE A LIFE OF THE
MINGLING
OF GOD AND MAN
Strictly speaking, incarnation put God and man together but did not fully mingle God and man as one. What kind of procedure can accomplish this matter of mingling God together with man? Only resurrection can. Incarnation simply put God and man in one place but did not fully mingle God and man, man and God, together. It was after resurrection that man entered into God, and God fully mingled with man. God and man were then fully mingled as one. In other words, when we were saved, there was only incarnation in us. There was only Emmanuel—God with man. God and man, man and God, were not yet mingled as one. It was not until the day when man had the element of resurrection that man and God, God and man, were mingled as one. At that time God was not only with man, but God was mingled with man as one.
@sonship saidNot you, that’s for absolute certainty.
@divegeester
Who owns the truth ?
@sonship saidDid you perhaps chastise Suzianne for writing 'Because there is a difference between talking about a concept someone pioneered and actually quoting them' believing the post had been made by Dive? (And then quickly edited it).
Mistake.
Thought it was Dive speaking.
No you, that’s for absolute certainty.
It what you like to do is take other human beings writings, repackage their ideas and present them in here as begin your own.
Paul, a called apostle of Christ Jesus through the will of God, and Sosthenes the brother,
To the church of God which is in Corinth, to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, called saints, with all those who call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ in every place, THEIRS AND OURS. (1 Cor. 1:1,2)
@sonship saidSure, but you can't claim ownership of someone else's words, whatever sanctimonious spin you try to put on it.
@divegeester
No you, that’s for absolute certainty.
It what you like to do is take other human beings writings, repackage their ideas and present them in here as begin your own.
Why should they not be my own if I become one who has believed in Jesus Christ?
Didn't Paul say that Christ was both THEIRS and OURS ?
[quote] Paul, a called apos ...[text shortened]... and the church which was at Corinth did, the local church.
Why should not the truth be mine too ?
That which we have seen and heard we report also to you, that you also may have fellowship with us,
and indeed the fellowship which is OURS is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ.
And these things we write that our joy may be made full. (1 John 1:3,4)
" ... learn Christ, Since indeed you have heard Him and been taught in Him as the truth is in Jesus. " (Eph. 20b,21)
Sure, but you can't claim ownership of someone else's words, whatever sanctimonious spin you try to put on it.
@sonship saidProbably best you stay away from sarcasm.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke
Sure, but you can't claim ownership of someone else's words, whatever sanctimonious spin you try to put on it.
Oh no! Who would ever dare to argue with someone who uses a phrase like "sanctimonious spin" ?