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@sonship saidHow did get that from my post asking you :
Are you suggesting that universal salvation is shown in the bible to be inevitable?
“Are you suggesting that there are people who cannot be reconciled by God?”
@sonship saidHow did get that from my post asking you :
Are you suggesting that universal salvation is shown in the bible to be inevitable?
@sonship saidHow can and why would someone who design believe in a god or gods thank those gods he doesn’t believe exist?
The unreconciled creature never gives thanks to his Creator.
He will not turn around after even years of blessing and think to
thank God. It is sport to him to find reasons not to consider ever saying "At least God . . . Thankyou for this".
It is sport to him to rationalize that no thanks whatsoever is due to the one who created him.
@sonship saidHere's one: what is the purpose behind you referring to non-Christians as "creatures"?
Question to me:
@divegeester saidI would also appreciate a response from you on this sonship.
How can and why would someone who design believe in a god or gods thank those gods he doesn’t believe exist?
"Are you suggesting that there are people who cannot be reconciled by God?"
@sonship saidYou cannot be reconciled to God and promoting or practicing mouth worship. You do not understand what reconciliation means. It means repentance from sin as v 10 ,11 states, and repentance means not going back to a life of sin, and it means obedience to commandments.
@divegeester
"Are you suggesting that there are people who cannot be reconciled by God?"
Does it appear that these men can or cannot be reconciled to God?
[b]"And the fourth angel poured out his bowl upon the sun; and it was given to it to burn men with fire. And men were burned with great heat, and they blasphemed the name of God, and t ...[text shortened]... refuse. Whatever it is they are "enjoying" they love that more than God or being reconciled to God.
How can and why would someone who design believe in a god or gods thank those gods he doesn’t believe exist?
@sonship saidAccording to Paul here in Romans 1, you are doing to very same thing which you are accusing the atheists and agnostics of. In fact a Christian like you and an atheist are in the very same predicament.
@divegeester
How can and why would someone who design believe in a god or gods thank those gods he doesn’t believe exist?
I think I understand your question.
And you say you would appreciate my answer.
I would point you to appreciate the answer given by the Bible.
Man is without excuse to not believe in God because of the witness ...[text shortened]... ully what would rise up in their conscience. In history there have been some mighty "hold downers".
You for example believe that your profession of faith makes you escape the righteous judgment of God.
You believe that no matter what you do God cannot remove your name from the book of life and will eventually get eternal life.
There is no such doctrine in the bible.
All mankind will be judged the same :
.. the righteous judgment of God; Who will render to every man according to his deeds: To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: For there is no respect of persons with God.
(Romans 2:4-11 KJV)
EVERY man, who does good, gets rewarded with immortality and eternal life
@sonship saidYou cannot quote anything from the teachings of Christ. You are proficient at quoting twisted, manipulated and cherry picked passages that support your failed doctrine of do nothing and mouth worship, full of false conclusions most of which contradict Christ.
You for example believe that your profession of faith makes you escape the righteous judgment of God.
The saved do not undergo a judgment for eternal life because they have been judged already on the cross of Calvary at Golgotha.
You cannot quote anything from the teachings of Christ. You are proficient at quoting twisted, manipulated and cherry picked passages that support your failed doctrine of do nothing and mouth worship, full of false conclusions most of which contradict Christ.
@sonship saidChrist is not Paul. You cherry pick passages from Paul and ignore the parts about righteousness which is a necessary requrement for inheritance in the Kingdom of God. That makes you a dangerous liar. Quote what Christ said about eternal life.
@Rajk999
You cannot quote anything from the teachings of Christ. You are proficient at quoting twisted, manipulated and cherry picked passages that support your failed doctrine of do nothing and mouth worship, full of false conclusions most of which contradict Christ.
I did quote to you 1 Cor. 3:16,17 and Romans 14:10.
The epistles of ...[text shortened]... ll you do when I show you absolutely Jesus spoke it BEFORE His apostle spoke it. What will you do ??