Revelation of Jesus Christ 22: Jesus is speaking from verse 12.

12“Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. 13I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

14“Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. 15Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

16“I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give youa this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”

The Spirit and the bride say, "Come." And let the one who hears say, "Come." And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who wishes take the water of life without cost."

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Accepting that the spirit is the spirit of God aka the spirit of Christ (although there will be contention around that particular nuance), and accepting that the Bride is the Bride of Christ, the church. Then to whom is the Bride saying "come"?

When Jesus says he will reward each according to what they have done, does this mean those to who he is saying come? Can more come to him than are already in the Bride?

Does this mean that the opposite of the "reward". is eternal torture in flames? [No!] Or is this further revelation that there is:

- the Bride of the groom (the church)
- the friends of the groom (john 3:29) other people who will be with the Bride and the Groom?

Bearing in mind that Christ died once and for ALL, (1 peter 3:18, Romans 6:10, Hebrews 9:28) and that many many times throughout the bible is states "mercy triumphs over judgement" -- does this add anything to your view of the atonement, salvation, judgement, hell etc?

Thoughts.

Edit: incidentally the "waters of life" are as symbolic as the tree of life.

Originally posted by divegeester
Revelation of Jesus Christ 22: Jesus is speaking from verse 12.

12“Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. 13I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

14“Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of li ...[text shortened]... tc?

Thoughts.

Edit: incidentally the "waters of life" are as symbolic as the tree of life.

Originally posted by Rajk999
What version is that. The KJV reads:

And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. [b]Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the cit ...[text shortened]... come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. (Revelation 22:12-17 KJV)

Originally posted by divegeester
Revelation of Jesus Christ 22: Jesus is speaking from verse 12.

12“Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. 13I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

14“Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of li ...[text shortened]... tc?

Thoughts.

Edit: incidentally the "waters of life" are as symbolic as the tree of life.

Originally posted by Rajk999
Here the Bride of Christ appears to be the New Jerusalem:

And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. ...... And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee ...[text shortened]... great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, (Revelation 21:2-10 KJV)

Originally posted by divegeester
Revelation of Jesus Christ 22: Jesus is speaking from verse 12.

12“Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. 13I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

14“Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of li ...[text shortened]... tc?

Thoughts.

Edit: incidentally the "waters of life" are as symbolic as the tree of life.

Originally posted by Rajk999
The Bible speaks of people who are perfect before God and I have no doubt that there are such people who are able to resist all kinds of sin and live righteously as Christ did.

Originally posted by divegeester
But the Bible says on Jeremiah

"The heart is more deceitful than all else And is desperately sick; Who can understand it?"

And also, in Romans:

[b]"ALL have sinned and fallen short."

So you cannot be correct here can you?[/b]

Originally posted by Rajk999
The Bible also speaks of some who are perfect. Revelation refers to 144,000 who are also clean and pure. Why cant both types exist?

Originally posted by divegeester
What is about the word "ALL" that you have trouble comprehending?

Originally posted by Rajk999
Do you know that there are many words in the Bible that have a different meaning from what you think it is?

Here are a few:

for ever and ever / eternal / everlasting - really means for an era or period
ALL the world - really means part of the world


So be careful about taking words like ALL literally.

An other posters have a thought on the OP?

Originally posted by divegeester
I'm glad you're here with to correct the scriptures I provided.

I never realised that when Paul said "all have fallen short...", what he actually meant was "most have fallen short except those who do works, you guys are perfect and don't need redemption"

Originally posted by Rajk999
Its time I stop talking to you. Im tired of your bull.
Im going to place you in Suzianne's category.
I never reply to her posts so you are now in that group.
Have a nice life pal.

Originally posted by Rajk999
Do you know that there are many words in the Bible that have a different meaning from what you think it is?

Here are a few:

for ever and ever / eternal / everlasting - really means for an era or period
ALL the world - really means part of the world


So be careful about taking words like ALL literally.