13 Dec 14
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Originally posted by FMFSociety is increasingly dependent upon government because government keeps expanding. Do you deny this?
Nobody looks to government to "fix all of life's problems". You're so intent on loading up your definition with facetiousness and hyperbole, you are just babbling.
At one point in US history, FDR tried to sell social security to the nation. It was a rather hard sell because at the time most thought they did not need it. However, today Americans think they would die in the streets without it, even though it is not really enough to even survive on.
This is just one example of many.
As for facetious hyperbole, those in Washington can shove it up their arse.
In other words, if those in Washington like their facetious hyperbole, they may keep it. 😵
14 Dec 14
Originally posted by whodeyIn Indonesia?
Society is increasingly dependent upon government because government keeps expanding. Do you deny this?
Your definition of "statist" is absurd hyperbole. According to your definition, none exist. If you have a serious point to make about spirituality and your conservative views, perhaps you need to calm down a bit and consider more carefully the words you are typing.
14 Dec 14
Originally posted by FMFThe more power a government has the more corrupt it becomes. Luckily, your particular government is not that far gone......yet.
In Indonesia?
Your definition of "statist" is absurd hyperbole. According to your definition, none exist. If you have a serious point to make about spirituality and your conservative views, perhaps you need to calm down a bit and consider more carefully the words you are typing.
I like what C.S. Lewis said nearly half a century ago.
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.C. S. Lewis
What a brilliant man.
14 Dec 14
Originally posted by whodey"My" government is moving in the other direction. A three decade long dictatorship here was overthrown 16 years ago.
The more power a government has the more corrupt it becomes. Luckily, your particular government is not that far gone......yet.
According to your definition, no "statists" exist. I've never met one who conforms to your definition, and I doubt you have.
14 Dec 14
Originally posted by FMFAnd how did this "revolution" occur FMF?
"My" government is moving in the other direction. A three decade long dictatorship here was overthrown 16 years ago.
According to your definition, no "statists" exist. I've never met one who conforms to your definition, and I doubt you have.
The US also had a similar spat with the British crown. They too rose up and blood was spilled and they attained political power.
I submit that the only way freedom is attained is not through the political process, but through the spilling of blood. Keep in mind that the same people who had been praising the election of the Indonesian president Sarhuto soon fled with him after violent riots broke out and he was toppled.
Of course, like the US revolution, freedom is fleeting. Soon the bureaucrats move in, take power, and squeeze more and more power from the people, much like a boa constrictor.
14 Dec 14
Originally posted by FMFThe man simply had two eyes, a brain, and history to look at. He saw how his own country oppressed such people as the colonists in the US. He saw how the British crown tried to use a combination of corporate tyranny and military might to imprison and impoverish a people.
How many years did C. S. Lewis spend living under a military dictatorship / kleptocratic tyranny / "robber barons"?
14 Dec 14
Originally posted by whodeyHe was nostalgic about the "robber barons" era? He thought "the British crown" tended to "imprison and impoverish a people" in the "robber barons" era?
The man simply had two eyes, a brain, and history to look at. He saw how his own country oppressed such people as the colonists in the US. He saw how the British crown tried to use a combination of corporate tyranny and military might to imprison and impoverish a people.
15 Dec 14
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Originally posted by whodeySo C.S.Lewis thought "the British crown" tended to "imprison and impoverish a people" in the "robber barons" era and you [1] dub him a "brilliant man" because of this viewpoint, and [2] you cite police shootings in the US to substantiate yours/his analysis?
Today in the US the police just shoot them on the streets.
Shrug.