Pawnokeyhole: "Belief in God is possible without a belief in the Holy Spirit.

Ask a Muslim or a Jew."


Ivanhoe:

Genesis 1
(Young's Literal Translation)


1 In the beginning of God's preparing the heavens and the earth --

2 the earth hath existed waste and void, and darkness [is] on the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God fluttering on the face of the waters,

3 and God saith, `Let light be;' and light is.



http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=1&chapter=1&version=15


Pawnokeyhole: "That would be the "Ruach Yahweh", literally, the "breath of God", an animating principle.

The Holy Spirit, of the special sort Jesus claims to have left behind, is another kettle of fish entirely."

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"The presence of the Holy Trinity in the Old Testament should be a good apologetic tool for Christians to use in their dialogue with Jews and Moslems."

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http://www.catholic.net/rcc/Periodicals/Faith/1998-01-02/trinity.html


The Holy Trinity in the Old Testament
(Part One)


by Constance Woods, Ph.D.

The full revelation of the Trinity is not given until the sending of the Son and the Holy Spirit. The eternal relationships within the Godhead could not be known by natural reason, but were revealed progressively with the Incarnation and Pentecost, which are extensions into time of the eternal processions. Yet there are traces of the triune God throughout the Old Testament. Standing alone, these traces could never be understood as references to Persons in the Trinity. Only with the New Testament revelation is new light cast on the meaning of many Old Testament passages.

read further at:

http://www.catholic.net/rcc/Periodicals/Faith/1998-01-02/trinity.html

http://www.catholic.net/rcc/Periodicals/Faith/1998-03-04/trinity.html


The Holy Trinity in the Old Testament

by Constance Woods, Ph.D.

PART II

Originally posted by ivanhoe
Pawnokeyhole: "Belief in God is possible without a belief in the Holy Spirit.

Ask a Muslim or a Jew."


Ivanhoe:

Genesis 1
(Young's Literal Translation)


1 In the beginning of God's preparing the heavens and the earth --

2 the earth hath existed waste and void, and darkness [is] on the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God fluttering ...[text shortened]... urther at:

http://www.catholic.net/rcc/Periodicals/Faith/1998-01-02/trinity.html

Originally posted by Hand of Hecate
We need to send you to a training class: "How to be succinct in 1 easy step."

Originally posted by Hand of Hecate
That's hilarious HoH, you rock! LMFAO!

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Douche

Originally posted by Hand of Hecate
We need to send you to a training class: "How to be succinct in 1 easy step."

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Or, "How to Say Exactly What You're Trying to Get Others to Understand About Where You're Coming From by Using a Lot Less Words in Only a Few Steps."

Originally posted by Hand of Hecate
Yes. Also available is the Succinctnessisity 201 Course, otherwise known as "Try to take a step back and summarize the message you are trying to convey into a statement that demonstrates a well thought out, deliberate and coherent valid arguement supported by references sufficient to be persuasive."

Originally posted by ivanhoe
Pawnokeyhole: "Belief in God is possible without a belief in the Holy Spirit.

Ask a Muslim or a Jew."


Ivanhoe:

Genesis 1
(Young's Literal Translation)


1 In the beginning of God's preparing the heavens and the earth --

2 the earth hath existed waste and void, and darkness [is] on the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God fluttering ...[text shortened]... urther at:

http://www.catholic.net/rcc/Periodicals/Faith/1998-01-02/trinity.html

Originally posted by Pawnokeyhole
Hindsight bias.

Originally posted by Pawnokeyhole
Hindsight bias.

Originally posted by telerion
OMG PKH! You've gone SVW on us today!

Originally posted by telerion
OMG PKH! You've gone SVW on us today!

He has been reincarnated as me.

Lucky bastard.