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Originally posted by no1marauderSorry for the name calling, but you can be annoying. As for reading the bible you should follow the advise of this eunich.
I've actually read it and don't rely for my interpretation on what some guy invented in the 1800's, you gullible jerk.
Acts 8:29-31
29 Then the Spirit said to Philip, "Go near and overtake this chariot."
30 So Philip ran to him, and heard him reading the prophet Isaiah, and said, "Do you understand what you are reading?"
31 And he said, "How can I, unless someone guides me?" And he asked Philip to come up and sit with him.
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Now, I am not your teacher, but you really should go and listen to different preachers.
08 Jan 06
Originally posted by checkbaiterI don't need other people to tell me what to think like you do.
Sorry for the name calling, but you can be annoying. As for reading the bible you should follow the advise of this eunich.
Acts 8:29-31
29 Then the Spirit said to Philip, "Go near and overtake this chariot."
30 So Philip ran to him, and heard him reading the prophet Isaiah, and said, "Do you understand what you are reading?"
31 And he said, "How ...[text shortened]...
Now, I am not your teacher, but you really should go and listen to different preachers.
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Originally posted by Rajk999Because to believe the bible, and it does require faith, one needs to understand the whole picture. We should not be after the things God gives, at least not primarily, but we should concentrate on seeking Him.
2 and 3 sounds contradictory. But anyway, I assume the whole point of religion is to get eternal life. We agree that if you follow the commandments of Christ you are 100% certain to acheive that. Why complicate matters with other theories that maybe incorrect, and you run the risk of diluting the importance of the teachings of Christ.
We should try to understand His heart. What He wants....
Jer 9:23-24
23 Thus says the LORD: "Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, let not the mighty man glory in his might, nor let the rich man glory in his riches;
24 But let him who glories glory in this, that he understands and knows Me, that I am the LORD, exercising lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness in the earth. For in these I delight," says the LORD.
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08 Jan 06
Originally posted by no1marauderThen you will never understand God nor the bible. You need something or someone outside of yourself. Or at the very least, sincere prayer with a humble attitude, ask God Himself to show you what you need to know.
I don't need other people to tell me what to think like you do.
He usually sends people.
08 Jan 06
Originally posted by checkbaiterWhy do you say that? He frequently cites Bible passages in his posts. Isn't No. 1's personality somewhat akin to John the Baptist's?
Then you will never understand God nor the bible. You need something or someone outside of yourself. Or at the very least, sincere prayer with a humble attitude, ask God Himself to show you what you need to know.
He usually sends people.
08 Jan 06
Originally posted by checkbaiterI have to strongly disagree with this. You believe that people have to be 'called' or else they are doomed .. right ?
Then you will never understand God nor the bible. You need something or someone outside of yourself. Or at the very least, sincere prayer with a humble attitude, ask God Himself to show you what you need to know.
He usually sends people.
08 Jan 06
Originally posted by checkbaiterDisagree .. Christ says to come to him as a child. I thought that meant not to question what He says but to believe as a child would .. and simply accept His teachings. While additional Bible study and knowing the entire picture is useful its is not a necessary condition for eternal life.
Because to believe the bible, and it does require faith, one needs to understand the whole picture. We should not be after the things God gives, at least not primarily, but we should concentrate on seeking Him.
We should try to understand His heart. What He wants....
Jer 9:23-24
23 Thus says the LORD: "Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, let n ...[text shortened]... ness, judgment, and righteousness in the earth. For in these I delight," says the LORD.
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Originally posted by checkbaiter"Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, let not the mighty man glory in his might, nor let the rich man glory in his riches;"
Because to believe the bible, and it does require faith, one needs to understand the whole picture. We should not be after the things God gives, at least not primarily, but we should concentrate on seeking Him.
We should try to understand His heart. What He wants....
Jer 9:23-24
23 Thus says the LORD: "Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, let n ...[text shortened]... ness, judgment, and righteousness in the earth. For in these I delight," says the LORD.
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Is this the same god that claims to be omniscient, omnipotent and the Lord of all creation? (And wants everyone to worship him for it)
Sounds like a hypocrite to me...
08 Jan 06
Originally posted by checkbaiterCheckbaiter .. here is proof that you do not really believe that the teachings of Christ are sufficient for salvation. Christ is probably the only person in the Bible that spoke with such clarity and simplicity. A 10 year old child can read and understand what is required for salvation. You need to accept Christ and go ahead and get on with the business of doing good works - Matt 25.
Then you will never understand God nor the bible. You need something or someone outside of yourself. Or at the very least, sincere prayer with a humble attitude, ask God Himself to show you what you need to know.
He usually sends people.
Studying, translating, interpreting, researching is of no value on judgement day.
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Originally posted by Rajk999God wants "all" people to believe, but not all will.
I have to strongly disagree with this. You believe that people have to be 'called' or else they are doomed .. right ?
1 Tim 2:3-5
3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus,
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Originally posted by Rajk999Heb 11:6
Disagree .. Christ says to come to him as a child. I thought that meant not to question what He says but to believe as a child would .. and simply accept His teachings. While additional Bible study and knowing the entire picture is useful its is not a necessary condition for eternal life.
6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.
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