Originally posted by @philokalia
You are a materialist though, right.

SO what is enlightenment to you. What does that look like.

Freedom.
Peace.


I would pour you more from my teapot of knowledge, but you don't appear to have a cup.

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Freedom.
Peace.


I would pour you more from my teapot of knowledge, but you don't appear to have a cup.

Without grace there's no freedom or peace.

Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
" Let an intelligent person come to me, sincere, honest, straightforward, I shall instruct him and point him towards the Dhamma, so that practicing according to instruction, Before long he would himself know, and himself see. Even so, indeed is freedom from the direct bond, That is from the bond of delusion. " -Gotama Buddha

How does one come to a dead man for anything?

Come to the living Christ. Jesus is the light.

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Enlightenment.

Originally posted by @philokalia
What will you get when you break the bond to the attachment to physical things?

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Enlightenment.

No. Death breaks the bond to the attachment to physical things.

Originally posted by @philokalia
What will you get when you break the bond to the attachment to physical things?

Self knowledge, bliss edit: Not just physical things

Originally posted by @apathist
And cold! I like stoic and apache and spartan, but I insist there is more than just hey accept suffering.

I have not suffered, not like my teacher

Originally posted by @philokalia
I am wondering, though, if any of the people who are humoring us with Buddhism here believe the underlying metaphysics.

Atheists nodding approval at Buddhism shorn of cosmological and metaphysical significance is nothing new.

Reread OP. Not much to do with Buddhism

Originally posted by @philokalia
You are a materialist though, right.

SO what is enlightenment to you. What does that look like.

Only Ghost would know

Originally posted by @secondson
How does one come to a dead man for anything?

Come to the living Christ. Jesus is the light.

The Christ lives inside of me, inside the righteous. Again: this is not a Buddhist thread

Originally posted by @secondson
Originally posted by @philokalia
What will you get when you break the bond to the attachment to physical things?

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Enlightenment.

No. Death breaks the bond to the attachment to physical things.

White Death ?

Originally posted by @secondson
Originally posted by @philokalia
What will you get when you break the bond to the attachment to physical things?

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Enlightenment.

No. Death breaks the bond to the attachment to physical things.

Not in Buddhism. Which is what we were talking about.

Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
Self knowledge, bliss edit: Not just physical things

Dharma
Seek and you will find
Truth within your mind
Dharma
(from Dharma for One by Jethro Tull)

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Freedom.
Peace.


I would pour you more from my teapot of knowledge, but you don't appear to have a cup.

This still seems pretty empty, my friend.

It feels more like Jack Kerouac & Allen Ginsberg, the sort of "freedom and peace" you get through some atomized Western materialist lifestyle but you season it with decontextualized eastern philosophy to make it feel like you're spiritual.

But you're not.

But I coul dbe wrong.

You'll not elaborate, though, because you unabashedly admit your contempt for me. LOL, great stuff.

Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
Reread OP. Not much to do with Buddhism

Dhamma is a pretty explicitly Buddhist concept when you use the Pali spelling, IMO, but IDK, I might be biased due to my personal history.

Originally posted by @philokalia
This still seems pretty empty, my friend.

It feels more like Jack Kerouac & Allen Ginsberg, the sort of "freedom and peace" you get through some atomized Western materialist lifestyle but you season it with decontextualized eastern philosophy to make it feel like you're spiritual.

But you're not.

But I coul dbe wrong.

You'll not elaborate, though, because you unabashedly admit your contempt for me. LOL, great stuff.

Your previous post to me began, "You are a materialist though, right."


What were the grounds for that question, beyond your prejudgment?

And no, I am not spiritual, nor do I seek to be perceived as such. I'm all about the wisdom, (I also reserve the liberty to discuss Buddhist concepts that I don't personally concur with).