14 Mar 18
Originally posted by @rajk999I know ToO thinks Jesus Christ was just a man (and has to ignore a great deal of the New Testament, including Jesus’ own words, to believe that.)
Thanks ...some very good points in there regarding the Gospel of Christ.
Now if only those who want to post about what they perceive the be the Gospel can do likewise ... i guess that is asking too much.
rajk - Do you also believe Jesus was “just a man?” Or do you accept that Jesus Christ was/is God in the flesh? If the latter, what was the purpose of His crucifixion and Resurrection?
Originally posted by @rajk999According to the gospel of Rajk we don't have to believe.
A couple references ?
According to the gospel of Jesus we do:
John 20:28-29
Thomas replied, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen Me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
Originally posted by @rajk999So we have the core of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Thanks ...some very good points in there regarding the Gospel of Christ.
Now if only those who want to post about what they perceive the be the Gospel can do likewise ... i guess that is asking too much.
Started by John the Baptist:
Continued by Christ as per post by ToO.
Then preached by the disciples:
In all cases the gospel preached is the good news of the Kingdom of God.
Repentance, baptism and living righteously are the requirements for entry into the Kingdom.
Almost all of the teachings and parables of Christ were designed to demonstrate this gospel of the Kingdom of God and to show who are the ones who will enter this Kingdom and who will not enter. There is no other teaching during the time of Christ, which pointed to any other gospel or good news.
The Gospel of Jesus Christ, preached by John the Baptist, by the hundreds of disciples is the Gospel of the Kingdom of God.
Originally posted by @rajk999The fact you won’t answer whether you believe Jesus Christ was just a man or God in the flesh says a lot. I suspect you’re a Christ denier just like ToO and the Pharisees.
So we have the core of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Started by John the Baptist:
Continued by Christ as per post by ToO.
Then preached by the disciples:
In all cases the gospel preached is the good news of the Kingdom of God.
Repentance, baptism and living righteously are the requirements for entry into the Kingdom.
Almost all of the teachings and ...[text shortened]... preached by John the Baptist, by the hundreds of disciples is the Gospel of the Kingdom of God.
To think you and ToO have the gall to speak for Jesus Christ when you deny His divinity is blasphemy. It’s as though the Pharisees, who also were Christ deniers and had Jesus put to death for claiming to be God, decided they would teach about Jesus.
God have mercy on both of you.
The Gospel of the kingdom included also the grace of God. And the preaching of the gospel of grace is for the kingdom of God.
Now grace is the enjoyment of God Himself to be everything that you need. What you don't have God comes in to BE for you and in you and on your behalf. This is grace.
Some say Grace is unmerited favor. That's good. But I think this definition is even better.
Paul brought the two matters together in his preaching.
" ... the ministry which I have received from the Lord Jesus to solemnly testify of the gospel of the GRACE OF GOD.
And now, behold, I know that you all, among whom I have gone about proclaiming the KINGDOM, will see my face no more." (Acts. 20:24,25)
Do you see? Paul's proclamation of the good news of the grace of God was intrinsically related to God establishing "the kingdom" [of God].
We need Christ Himself to be our redemption to enter into God's kingdom. And we need Christ Himself to be the life within to live a kingdom living.
The very way the believers initially RECEIVE Him should be the same way in which they continue to LIVE by Him a righteous living.
"As therefore you have received the Christ, Jesus the Lord, walk in Him." (Col. 2:6)
Amen.
14 Mar 18
Originally posted by @thinkofoneNo coincidences , no accidents
Interesting how those who believe in "salvation by faith alone" so often misrepresent the positions of others. Seems likely that it's not a coincidence.
Just Amnesia and confusion
14 Mar 18
Originally posted by @karoly-aczelNot that many Christians seem to really understand it, but the point is to "die" before one can live.
Jesus ' life was more significant than his death
If we could just live before we die!
14 Mar 18
Originally posted by @thinkofoneThe 'poor in spirit' are blessed for they will enter the kingdom of Heaven
Not that many Christians seem to really understand it, but the point is to "die" before one can live.
Originally posted by @karoly-aczelIndeed.
The 'poor in spirit' are blessed for they will enter the kingdom of Heaven
Matthew 16
24Then Jesus said to His disciples, “If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross and follow Me. 25 “For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it; but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it. 26“For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul? 27“For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS.
14 Mar 18
Originally posted by @thinkofone*near tear*
Indeed.
Matthew 16
24Then Jesus said to His disciples, “If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross and follow Me. 25 [b]“For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it; but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it. 26“For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or ...[text shortened]... e glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS[/b].[/b]
Concise and elegant.
Originally posted by @sonshipNobody is arguing that.
The Gospel of the kingdom included also the grace of God. And the preaching of the gospel of grace is for the kingdom of God.
Now [b]grace is the enjoyment of God Himself to be everything that you need. What you don't have God comes in to BE for you and in you and on your behalf. This is grace.
Some say Grace is unmerited favor. That's goo ...[text shortened]... e you have received the Christ, Jesus the Lord, walk in Him." (Col. 2:6) [/b] [/quote]
Amen.[/b]
The Grace is God is in sending his son Jesus Christ to die for the sins of man, and to set up the Kingdom on the Earth for the 1000 yr reign. That is the function of Christ.
This why Paul said that nobody had to work for it.. its free and its is the gift of God... eternal life through Christ.
Originally posted by @rajk999Do you believe Jesus Christ was/is God in the flesh or not? Why not just answer “Yes” or “No?”
Nobody is arguing that.
The Grace is God is in sending his son Jesus Christ to die for the sins of man, and to set up the Kingdom on the Earth for the 1000 yr reign. That is the function of Christ.
This why Paul said that nobody had to work for it.. its free and its is the gift of God... eternal life through Christ.
ToO says “No.” What do you say?