26 Sep 18
Originally posted by @rajk999no pretense... Lucifer is .(was) a fallen angel. Reality is not static-it just works over very big (1000's of years) cycles so we may not see it change over several of our lifetimes.
Dunno but the bible says Satan pretended to be an angel of light so he is not actually one.
God forgives as does Jesus and all who are found worthy shall enter the garden. Including Lucifer.
Originally posted by @rajk999Read it again. The Bible doesn't say Satan "pretended" to be an angel of light.
Dunno but the bible says Satan pretended to be an angel of light so he is not actually one.
2 Corinthians 11:14
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Kind of like what you do. You know, transforming into a follower of Jesus.
Originally posted by @secondsonIt makes no difference. In fact the passage speaks also of false teachers like you, sonship and others here who promote a doctrine contrary to the teachings Jesus Christ
Read it again. The Bible doesn't say Satan "pretended" to be an angel of light.
2 Corinthians 11:14
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Kind of like what you do. You know, transforming into a follower of Jesus.
For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. (2 Corinthians 11:13-15 KJV)
False church pastors who deceitful change the bible to support their church doctrine. Whether you all pretend or are transformed into angels of light the fact is you are not angels of light but the Devils angels preaching false doctrines and your end will be the same as that of Satan.
26 Sep 18
Originally posted by @karoly-aczelBecause......... ALIENS!
we come from the stars thats why its important
Amiright?
27 Sep 18
Originally posted by @rajk999Do you have a direct quote from the Bible describing any angle as an angel of light?
It makes no difference. In fact the passage speaks also of false teachers like you, sonship and others here who promote a doctrine contrary to the teachings Jesus Christ
[i]For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore ...[text shortened]... but the Devils angels preaching false doctrines and your end will be the same as that of Satan.
27 Sep 18
Originally posted by @karoly-aczelIt's been said before but ...
we come from the stars thats why its important
we are all made of star poop.
27 Sep 18
Originally posted by @karoly-aczel'And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.'
God forgives as does Jesus and all who are found worthy shall enter the garden. Including Lucifer.
Revelation 20:10
27 Sep 18
Originally posted by @rajk999Like those who ignore Jesus' words that say we must be born again, because that which
It makes no difference. In fact the passage speaks also of false teachers like you, sonship and others here who promote a doctrine contrary to the teachings Jesus Christ
[i]For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore ...[text shortened]... but the Devils angels preaching false doctrines and your end will be the same as that of Satan.
is born of flesh is flesh and born of Spirit is spirit?
John 3:
3 Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again[b] he cannot see the kingdom of God.” 4 Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?” 5 Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit
Or Jesus saying, if we do not believe we are condemned already?
John
18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.
Or how those that deny Jesus will be denied?
Matthew 10:33
but whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven.
If you are not taking in all the Word of God, all of Jesus' words you are really not following
Him you are just cherry picking those parts you like.
Originally posted by @kellyjayYou focus of the superficial matters of the teachings of Christ and the Apostles. Superficial is what is Jesus does not want. Like the men who called Him Lord Lord. They obviously knew Him, they had the Holy Spirit [only the born again has that], but Jesus cast them out because their works were evil.
Like those who ignore Jesus' words that say we must be born again, because that which
is born of flesh is flesh and born of Spirit is spirit?
John 3:
3 Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again[b] he cannot see the kingdom of God.” 4 Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second tim ...[text shortened]... Jesus' words you are really not following
Him you are just cherry picking those parts you like.
The deeper matter of good works and righteousness is what Jesus looks for in a person. You have failed to demonstrate that your doctrine supports these more important issues.
Originally posted by @rajk999There is nothing superficial about anything Jesus says. Pity you think otherwise. When he says things like we need to do something we should take heed!
You focus of the superficial matters of the teachings of Christ and the Apostles. Superficial is what is Jesus does not want. Like the men who called Him Lord Lord. They obviously knew Him, they had the Holy Spirit [obviously born again], but Jesus cast them out because their works were evil.
The deeper matter of good works and righteousness is what Jesu ...[text shortened]... person. You have failed to demonstrate that your doctrine supports these more important issues.