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Karoly just posted something that raises these questions in my mind:
What are the characteristics that lead to a religion being successful?
What does "successful religion" mean?
Is it related to and does it depend on the goals of a religion?
If so, who decides the goals of a religion?
Can the success of a religion be determined my examination of its worldly attributes (those attributes we ca assess in the here and now)? IOW, how and when do we come to know that a religion is successful?
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Originally posted by JS357i guess it would depend on the religion and what they preach. but in general thinking of the main global religions i would say the only one that can call itself successful is the one that can prove itself to be true.
Karoly just posted something that raises these questions in my mind:
What are the characteristics that lead to a religion being successful?
What does "successful religion" mean?
Is it related to and does it depend on the goals of a religion?
If so, who decides the goals of a religion?
Can the success of a religion be determined my examination of ...[text shortened]... sess in the here and now)? IOW, how and when do we come to know that a religion is successful?
29 Nov 12
Originally posted by JS357The question of success is relative to its time and place. Different religions will address different concerns at different times. There have certainly been religions that have been successful in the past, but whose usefulness has largely run its course. As the predominant issue facing mankind going into the 21st century is an impending ecological cataclysm, the most successful religions going forward will be ones that tackle that problem front and center. You're likely to see a rise in nature-centered religions, like Pantheism. Or a Gaian Pantheism, if you will. That will be the religion with the greatest chance of offering us salvation (from ourselves).
Karoly just posted something that raises these questions in my mind:
What are the characteristics that lead to a religion being successful?
What does "successful religion" mean?
Is it related to and does it depend on the goals of a religion?
If so, who decides the goals of a religion?
Can the success of a religion be determined my examination of ...[text shortened]... sess in the here and now)? IOW, how and when do we come to know that a religion is successful?
29 Nov 12
Originally posted by rwingettThat sounds like a religion that sonhouse could endorse. 😏
The question of success is relative to its time and place. Different religions will address different concerns at different times. There have certainly been religions that have been successful in the past, but whose usefulness has largely run its course. As the predominant issue facing mankind going into the 21st century is an impending ecological cataclysm ...[text shortened]... . That will be the religion with the greatest chance of offering us salvation (from ourselves).
30 Nov 12
Originally posted by JS357The first question we should ask is why we have religions? Certainly explaining the unexplainable is one answer. However, control is another. What better way to control the unwashed masses than to make sure they know that earthly discretions will be punished for eternity? The promise of eternity in heaven is the carrot that feeds religions.
Karoly just posted something that raises these questions in my mind:
What are the characteristics that lead to a religion being successful?
What does "successful religion" mean?
Is it related to and does it depend on the goals of a religion?
If so, who decides the goals of a religion?
Can the success of a religion be determined my examination of ...[text shortened]... sess in the here and now)? IOW, how and when do we come to know that a religion is successful?
So we must conclude that any successful religion will explain the unexplainable and instill some level of fear/uncertainty in the sheep while offering an eternal reward.
30 Nov 12
Originally posted by JS357Good questions. Of course this is looking at it from our viewpoint as humans and the many opinions that have developed over time from us humans.
Karoly just posted something that raises these questions in my mind:
What are the characteristics that lead to a religion being successful?
What does "successful religion" mean?
Is it related to and does it depend on the goals of a religion?
If so, who decides the goals of a religion?
Can the success of a religion be determined my examination of ...[text shortened]... sess in the here and now)? IOW, how and when do we come to know that a religion is successful?
So the question is how does God view religions and their different teachings both good and not so good? Does he accept them all or does he have "HIS" standards?
If he does not accept them all, how do we know what he does accept?
30 Nov 12
Originally posted by Hand of HecateTower of Babel. This is where false religion began with it's false teachings and then it was spread over the entire earth when they spread out from there.
The first question we should ask is why we have religions? Certainly explaining the unexplainable is one answer. However, control is another. What better way to control the unwashed masses than to make sure they know that earthly discretions will be punished for eternity? The promise of eternity in heaven is the carrot that feeds religions.
So ...[text shortened]... inable and instill some level of fear/uncertainty in the sheep while offering an eternal reward.
Most of us know what some false teachngs were there at that time such as a triune set of Gods. History proves that.
Later when Jesus came to earth he never taught such a teaching as a triune Godhead but it was later accepted into the "church" as a doctrine from non christian peoples. This is one of many pagan teachings that came into the Christian teachings which Jesus fortold would happen.
So now with this teaching and others adopted into the church, those teachings would naturally cause confusion and divisions among believers from that time until now.
The true from of teachings and beliefs that were taught by Jesus and his immediate followers has been watered down by pagan teachings and is not a widely taught truth in most religions today.
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Originally posted by galveston75That's crap, religions existed well before Christianity with origins predating the first cave paintings. The Tower of Babel is total bunk. Oh, and totally irrelevant to the subject of the thread.
Tower of Babel. This is where false religion began with it's false teachings and then it was spread over the entire earth when they spread out from there.
Most of us know what some false teachngs were there at that time such as a triune set of Gods. History proves that.
Later when Jesus came to earth he never taught such a teaching as a triune Godhea een watered down by pagan teachings and is not a widely taught truth in most religions today.
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Originally posted by JS357It depends on the definition of "success" in this instance, i.e. what is the objective of the religion.
Karoly just posted something that raises these questions in my mind:
What are the characteristics that lead to a religion being successful?
What does "successful religion" mean?
Is it related to and does it depend on the goals of a religion?
If so, who decides the goals of a religion?
Can the success of a religion be determined my examination of ...[text shortened]... sess in the here and now)? IOW, how and when do we come to know that a religion is successful?
For example some religions in America are extremely successful in extorting large amounts of money from unsuspecting but slightly greedy saps who think that giving $10 to Benny Hinn will make them rich or buy them a one way ticket to the happy hunting ground.
Originally posted by JS357a successful religion is one in which the application of its principles and tenets are able
Karoly just posted something that raises these questions in my mind:
What are the characteristics that lead to a religion being successful?
What does "successful religion" mean?
Is it related to and does it depend on the goals of a religion?
If so, who decides the goals of a religion?
Can the success of a religion be determined my examination of ...[text shortened]... sess in the here and now)? IOW, how and when do we come to know that a religion is successful?
to make the adherent transcend themselves and become a more loving and humane
individual and also transmit these tenets so that others may do the same.
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30 Nov 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobiemorning robbie. todays the day, i feel it in my water, the time has finally come for you to tackle the....................................spalax!!!!!
a successful religion is one in which the application of its principles and tenets are able
to make the adherent transcend themselves and become a more loving and humane
individual.
30 Nov 12
Originally posted by stellspalfieRobbie has zero interest in tackling that which contradicts his religious beliefs stellspalfie. Unfortunately that has been his modus operandi on this forum for as long as i can remember.
morning robbie. todays the day, i feel it in my water, the time has finally come for you to tackle the....................................spalax!!!!!