Spiritual Truth Poll

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Read a small book by Golfing Great, Ben Hogan, in my teens

which contained One Central Piece of Professional Advice:

to paraphrase, 'Go for Distance First; then, Focus on Getting the Ball in the Fairway'.

Apparently, you've read the same book (more than once).

JS, You're Still On the Tee >>>>>>> how about a hole in one [o]

I'm content with what I said. If you need to score it, it's a (6) in my book.

Spiritual Truth Poll / Page 1-2 Results //16 Posts, 5 Votes (with mine [1])

o It's out there; I've always wanted to know it and don't plan to stop now.[1] = 1.5

o There's no such thing; I'll construct my own postulates, paradigms and principles.[2] = 1.5

o Maybe it's 'out there', maybe it's not; I'm turned off by all the religious hypocrites.[3]

o I don't give a flying leap about 'spiritual truth' or 'god(s)'; I'm happy just being alive.[4]

o All of the above, except the first.[5]

o Prefer to abstain from voting in this poll; I'm a very private person and it's invaisive.[6] = 1

o None of the above.[7]

o Unspecified.[8] = 1
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Originally posted by twhitehead
I merely wanted you to explain what you mean by the term 'spiritual truth' in your question. It is not self explanatory and I am not at all clear about what you mean by it.

Spiritual truth is a common term and is completely self-explanatory. It seems to me that you are just being willfully and intentionally difficult.

The meaning would be along the lines of knowing how we got here, knowing where we are going, knowing why we are here, knowing why all this even exists, and gleaning the answers to these burning questions via spiritual revelation, experience, and study.

Something like that, although the absolute, perfect, word-for-word definition is unnecessary. Everyone here knows what is meant by the term and poll.

I'll go with #1, using the process of elimination.

Originally posted by sumydid
Spiritual truth is a common term and is completely self-explanatory. It seems to me that you are just being willfully and intentionally difficult.

How many different "spiritual truths" that completely contradict each other can exist and be valid [i.e."true"] at the same time?

Originally posted by sumydid
Spiritual truth is a common term and is completely self-explanatory.

No, it isn't. I had no idea what it meant until you explained it.

It seems to me that you are just being willfully and intentionally difficult.
Not at all.

The meaning would be along the lines of knowing how we got here, knowing where we are going, knowing why we are here, knowing why all this even exists, and gleaning the answers to these burning questions via spiritual revelation, experience, and study.
How you think that was 'self explanatory' from the phrase 'spiritual truth' I have no idea.

Something like that, although the absolute, perfect, word-for-word definition is unnecessary. Everyone here knows what is meant by the term and poll.
I am clearly not part of the 'everyone' group.

At least now I can honestly answer the poll. I will go with [2] with the understanding that:
1. How we got here is largely a scientific endeavour and at least to some extent is already known.
2. Similarly for 'where we are going' with a lot of guess work and best hopes thrown in.
3. I think the question 'why we are here' is fundamentally flawed, in that all 'why' questions suggest a necessary purpose, in differentiating it from 'how we got here', and I do not think a purpose has been established.
4. My main reason for choosing [2] is I believe attempts at 'gleaning the answers to these burning questions via spiritual revelation, experience, and study' will not get you any correct answers and is likely to lead to self delusion.

Originally posted by twhitehead
No, it isn't. I had no idea what it meant until you explained it.

It seems to me that you are just being willfully and intentionally difficult.
Not at all.

The meaning would be along the lines of knowing how we got here, knowing where we are going, knowing why we are here, knowing why all this even exists, and gleaning the answers to thes y' will not get you any correct answers and is likely to lead to self delusion.

Any truth to the persistent rumors of some law pertaining to gravitational forces operative on Planet Earth?

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Any truth to the persistent rumors of some law pertaining to gravitational forces operative on Planet Earth?

Yes, the law of gravity applies to objects on planet earth. With the understanding that a 'law' in science is a fairly simple rule that appears not to be violated. What exactly causes gravity and exactly how it works I do not know and I don't think scientists have completely worked it out either.

Can you explain how this is relevant to the thread? Is gravity a 'spiritual truth' in your definition?