Sodom and Gomorrah

Originally posted by @sonship

You miss the point.
The point is that racism in itself is not sinful.

I think that you miss the point. Shouldn't the Christians' point be to be brought into God's perfect will ?

"What am I allowed to practice because it is Okay?"
This is the question of man-centered priorities.
This is to be preoccupied with hoping God smiles ...[text shortened]... one new man" to emerge in city after city where the world can see Christ is all and in all.[/b]

Originally posted by @eladar
You confuse modern society's new man with God's.

Originally posted by @sonship
Jesus' "one new man" is the one He created on the cross - creating the two in Himself into "one new man".

It is important to notice that Ephesians 2:15 does not just say "the two in Himself" , referring specifically to Jew and Gentile. But it says "the two in Himself into ONE new man."

That of course means that walls of division between Gentile nations as well have been brought down in the "one new man".

It would make no sense for the Apostle Paul to mean Jews and Gentiles were now in one Body but Gentiles remained in un-peaceful divisions of enmity among themselves in the Christian church.

"Therefore remember that once you, the Gentiles in the flesh ... apart from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of the promise, having no hope and without God in the world,

But now in Christ Jesus you who were once far off have become near in the blood of Christ.

For He Himself is our peace, He who has made both one and has broken down the middle wall of partition, the enmity, abolishing in His flesh the law of commandments in ordinances,

that He might create the two in Himself into one new man, so making peace."

Originally posted by @eladar
Literally no one? Or simply a few?

You say I am a Calvinist. From your point of virw you would be saying there are no Calvinists.

Originally posted by @eladar
Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon. 22 A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly.”

23 Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.”
...[text shortened]... said.

26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”

Originally posted by @dj2becker
There are a million reasons He could have said that other than implying that racism is good. The fact that you keep on putting words in His mouth just shows that you have an agenda.

Originally posted by @eladar
I did not say racism is good. I just said it is not inherently sinful.

We have a definition of racism as follows

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

And

the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
noun: racism

" And in those days, as the disciples were multiplying in number, a murmuring of the Hellenists against the Hebrews occurred, because their widows were being overlooked in the daily dispensing.

And the twelve called the multitude of the disciples together to them and said, It is not fitting for us to forsake the word of God and serve tables." (Acts 6:1,2)

"But brothers look for seven well-attested men from among you, FULL OF the SPIRIT and of wisdom, whom we will appoint over the need." (v.3)

Originally posted by @sonship
We have a definition of racism as follows

[quote] prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

And

the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or super ...[text shortened]... rity along these lines God would not allow to divide up Christ's church.

God hasn't changed.

Originally posted by @eladar
So if one claims that black athletes are the fastest sprinters, this would be racism?

" ... I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it." (Matt. 16:18b)

I think the Christians of different natural races should wake up and realize that we have a common enemy. And by being saturated with Christ we can woo "The Desire of the nations" (Haggai 2:7) back to this earth.

Our overcoming has to do with His coming.
A critical mass of overcoming believers around the world will be the beachhead for the Lord's return.

I am not waiting for a worldwide revival.
I am expecting a critical mass of overcoming saints is what God needs as a kind of end time Gideon's little army. See the book of Judges.

Originally posted by @sonship
I think it sounds like a kind of racism stereotype.

Did I disappoint you?
Were you expecting me to say "Oh no, no, no" ?

The issue with me is t he building of the church.
The solution to the schisms preventing its building is deeper experience of Christ.

Originally posted by @eladar
[b]By the time Lot reached Zoar, the sun had risen over the land. 24 Then the Lord rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the Lord out of the heavens. 25 Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, destroying all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land.


Did Jesus agree with the mass slaughter of men, women, children and babies?[/b]

Did Jesus agree with the mass slaughter of men, women, children and babies?