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Originally posted by dj2becker
My answer to question 2 is this:

God would intervene before you kill your child if he was testing your faith by asking that of you.
Really?? He didn't in Judges 11:29-39, did he?

EDIT: And, of course, you didn't actually answer the question.

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Originally posted by dj2becker
God would intervene before you kill your child if he was testing your faith by asking that of you.
You presume to know the mind of god?

Interesting.

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Kichigai!

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Originally posted by KellyJay
He wouldn't ask me too, so the question is like being asked to draw a
square circle.
Kelly
STOP AVOIDING THE QUESTION.

If he asked you to kill your wife and children, would you do it?

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Originally posted by dj2becker
My answer to question 2 is this:

God would intervene before you kill your child if he was testing your faith by asking that of you.
STOP AVOIDING THE QUESTION.

If God told you to kill your wife and children, would you do it?

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Andrew Mannion

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This is starting to get boring, and it had some promise too.
Of course people wouldn't kill their wife and children - why bother asking the question.
If a god existed and it actually asked such an idiotic thing, people would just rationalise away the question: I didn't actually hear that did I, or, god didn't mean that I should actually do it, or some such other way out.
Which, as some have pointed out, sort of misses the whole point of the story anyway.
Given that the stories in the bible are best read as allegory, this god character wasn't actually asking Abraham to kill his son. It's an allegory for obedience and whatever else you want to read into it.
I know, you atheists and agnostics argue, but the fundies don't want to read it as allegory - they want it to be literal. Well, apart from the idiocy of such a position, so what? Let them. You're not going to argue them away from this position. So, why bother.
Better to discuss some of the other implications and positions that come out of religious and spiritual thought than to throw crap at each other for no possible outcome.

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Oh God said to Abraham, "Kill me a son"
Abe says, "Man, you must be puttin' me on"
God say, "No." Abe say, "What?"
God say, "You can do what you want Abe, but
The next time you see me comin' you better run"
Well Abe says, "Where do you want this killin' done?"
God says, "Out on Highway 61."

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Really?? He didn't in Judges 11:29-39, did he?

EDIT: And, of course, you didn't actually answer the question.
Where exactly did God command Jephthah to kill his child?

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Originally posted by dottewell
You presume to know the mind of god?

Interesting.
No. I'm just stating what God has revealed about himself in scriptures.

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Originally posted by dottewell
1. Who do you love more - God or your family?

2. If God asked you to kill your family, would you do so?
Is love a good enough reason to obey? If you love your wife more than say one of your friends, would you kill your friend on the orders of your wife?

Of course if you really believe in God, and God says "kill your wife" and promises that she is going to heaven then why not do it?