Originally posted by @divegeester
One way to test doctrine soundness is to mix two of new firmly held beliefs; here you declare your belief in predestination.
If we mix predestination with your other belief of eternal suffering, the resulting abomination is a philosophy where your version of Jesus predestines some people to be saved and by definition predestines others to go to eternal hell.
Your belief structure is a mess.
One way to test doctrine soundness is to mix two of new firmly held beliefs; here you declare your belief in predestination.
You never read ?
" Having predestinated us to sonship through Jesus Christ ..." (Eph. 1:5)
My attitude is, If it is useful for me gaining more Christ, lay hold of it.
We need all the help we can get. So why not stand on His word?
"Predestinating us unto sonship thorugh Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will ..."
Have you not realized the power of standing on the word of God ??
If we mix predestination with your other belief of eternal suffering, the resulting abomination is a philosophy where your version of Jesus predestines some people to be saved and by definition predestines others to go to eternal hell.
I don't take
Ephesians 1:5 in that way. It is like this. If a Jumbo Jet is going from NY to LA, if you get ON that Jumbo Jet, your destiny is to go where it goes ... PERIOD.
I take the promise of predestination as being the KEY at the words -
"through Jesus Christ".
Now some may find fault with this and have many theological classifications about what it is. That is secondary to my practicality.
If the passage will help me gain more Christ, I lay hold of it.
We overcome also by the word of our testimony.
Your belief structure is a mess.
Let's say I major in
eating the food on the menu.
Maybe you major in having a really neatly arranged and designed menu.
What good does that do if you don't EAT?
Do you want to starve with a nicely laid out menu in your hands?