Spirituality
05 Aug 17
09 Aug 17
Originally posted by @proper-knobDon't know possible
Ah yes, the old Himalayas were formed after the flood debacle. YEC insanity at its best.
As i recall it you believe that Africa and South America separated post flood as well.
09 Aug 17
Originally posted by @proper-knobBesides the we don't know that they would or did, the more time removed the chance of other unknown variables could come into play.
If the laws of nature work as they do now here in the present, why won't they have done the same a million years ago or a million years from now?
10 Aug 17
Originally posted by @karoly-aczelThat maybe but that is not a reason, which is what I asked for.
Indian spirituality. Old as hell
10 Aug 17
Originally posted by @kellyjayAre you saying there may have been a time in the earths history when plunging to the ground from a great height wouldn't have resulted in death because the laws of gravity were different?
Besides the we don't know that they would or did, the more time removed the chance of other unknown variables could come into play.
10 Aug 17
Originally posted by @proper-knobNo, I'm saying the longer something is out of sight, out of mind, out of reach, things can
Are you saying there may have been a time in the earths history when plunging to the ground from a great height wouldn't have resulted in death because the laws of gravity were different?
occur we know nothing about that can alter whatever it is we are looking at, that we may
not take into account, allowing us to error thinking we know all we need to know.
10 Aug 17
Originally posted by @kellyjayCan you provide and example of how that may occur please.
No, I'm saying the longer something is out of sight, out of mind, out of reach, things can
occur we know nothing about that can alter whatever it is we are looking at, that we may
not take into account, allowing us to error thinking we know all we need to know.
10 Aug 17
Originally posted by @proper-knobI've worked in R&D with microprocessors for nearly 20 years, trust me, if you lose track
Can you provide and example of how that may occur please.
of what it is your studying, monitoring, validating, you don't know what your looking at.
10 Aug 17
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Originally posted by @kellyjayWe may have crossed wires somewhere. You claimed earlier in the thread that 'scientific facts are not reality', i gave the example of falling off a 25 storey building and splattering onto the floor below is a reality based on the consequences of the law of gravity. The law of gravity doesn't change, if you fall from a 25 storey height 1 million years ago or tomorrow the end result will be the same. A nasty mess. Granted, our understanding of that law will become refined over time but the law consequences of the law doesn't change.
I've worked in R&D with microprocessors for nearly 20 years, trust me, if you lose track
of what it is your studying, monitoring, validating, you don't know what your looking at.
The same applies to the origin of life on our planet, all the evidence and i mean all the evidence points to all life on this planet sharing a common ancestor. How life evolved and the mechanisms involved are still being refined. That all life has a common ancestor is as indisputable as you trying falling from a 25 storey height and not splattering below.
10 Aug 17
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Originally posted by @proper-knobNo, all the evidence does not support that. You have a great deal of faith to suggest otherwise! Men have made leaps of faith, bending over backwards in connecting the dots to make that sound reasonable. They make their stories fit what they want to see keeping the narrative alive and well.
We may have crossed wires somewhere. You claimed earlier in the thread that 'scientific facts are not reality', i gave the example of falling off a 25 storey building and splattering onto the floor below is a reality based on the consequences of the law of gravity. The law of gravity doesn't change, if you fall from a 25 storey height 1 million years ag ...[text shortened]... stor is as indisputable as you trying falling from a 25 storey height and not splattering below.
If you stopped accepting it blindly and really looked at it all critically I doubt you repeat what you just said. For everything to fall into place from the microscopic to the cosmic the number of ducks having to be in a row is beyond numbers. It all had to be just right with nothing amiss or lacking, even having to much of something required could ruin the process.
10 Aug 17
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Originally posted by @kellyjayNo, all the evidence does not support that.
No, all the evidence does not support that. You have a great deal of faith to suggest otherwise! Men have made leaps of faith, bending over backwards in connecting the dots to make that sound reasonable. They make their stories fit what they want to see keeping the narrative alive and well.
If you stopped accepting it blindly and really looked at it all ...[text shortened]... with nothing amiss or lacking, even having to much of something required could ruin the process.
Could you start by highlighting a couple of snippets of evidence to support this claim of yours. In your view what evidence doesn't support the narrative that all life shares a common ancestor?
10 Aug 17
Originally posted by @proper-knobI owe you more, info that is not an off the top of my head question.
[b]No, all the evidence does not support that.
Could you start by highlighting a couple of snippets of evidence to support this claim of yours. In your view what evidence doesn't support the narrative that all life shares a common ancestor?[/b]
10 Aug 17
Originally posted by @kellyjaySo you think the Himalayas and the Alps and the Andes and the Pyrenees and the Rockies and the Sierra Nevada shot up to their present heights after the flood? Within recorded history. More than a thousand feet per year, several feet every day!, assuming it has been about 4,000 years since the flood. You'd think someone must have noticed such astonishing growth of mountain ranges. Yet no such stupendous growth is recorded for the ranges mentioned.
Water and the height of land were what in the days of the flood? There doesn't have to be more water a landscape change would be all it would take, flatten it out its covered.