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07 Jun 10
Originally posted by ZahlanziAh good, time for a beer then.
exactly what i said. i had an issue to a statement so general it communicates nothing out of the ordinary.
the fact that karoly changed his statement is of little consequence i was actually arguing for his original claim that basically that is true, but not important as he didn't supply a definition for music which led towards the fact that anything c ...[text shortened]... real value in a debate since its not falsifiable and can correspond to anything.
good talk
08 Jun 10
Originally posted by ZahlanziAs just a passerby, this really gave me a good chuckle. Cheers to you, Zahlanzi, in that project of yours.
i haven't argued that a kettle whistling is good music. i only argued that if someone likes it, it is simply that: music. and that is helpful towards supporting my claim that indeed all people love some kind of music.
08 Jun 10
Originally posted by LemonJellohey, weirder things have happened. weirder art definetely.
As just a passerby, this really gave me a good chuckle. Cheers to you, Zahlanzi, in that project of yours.
if ofili can slam som excrement on canvas and call it art, why not allow a kettle to be called music so i can make a point?
08 Jun 10
Originally posted by ZahlanziI wasn't really chuckling about the thought of kettle whistling as music. I was chuckling about your claim that indeed everyone loves at least some music and more specifically how you think you can help support it by more or less stipulating that if one likes some sequence of sounds, then it is music.
hey, weirder things have happened. weirder art definetely.
if ofili can slam som excrement on canvas and call it art, why not allow a kettle to be called music so i can make a point?
While we are at it, let's stipulate that if one finds some collection of atoms fluffy, then it is a puppy. That will help support my claim that indeed everyone finds at least some puppy fluffy. This may mean our entertaining pancakes and marshmallows and pillows and newly laundered clothes and things like that as puppies; but like you say, hey weirder things have happened.
09 Jun 10
Originally posted by LemonJellowith the difference that puppies are well defined. not everything fluffy is a puppy. the definition of puppies doesn't change every year to include little maggots or moocow babies. and also puppies are not a concept, an abstract idea.
I wasn't really chuckling about the thought of kettle whistling as music. I was chuckling about your claim that indeed everyone loves at least some music and more specifically how you think you can help support it by more or less stipulating that if one likes some sequence of sounds, then it is music.
While we are at it, let's stipulate that if one fi ...[text shortened]... d clothes and things like that as puppies; but like you say, hey weirder things have happened.
with music it is subjective. like it is with art. when rap appeared all were shouting "wtf this is not music, they are talking".
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09 Jun 10
Originally posted by ZahlanziOh good.
no i don't
But in a discussion about what is and isn't music and what people think about that, you said:
'with music it is subjective. like it is with art. when rap appeared all were shouting "wtf this is not music, they are talking".'
So what did you mean by that?
10 Jun 10
Originally posted by Lord Sharkpeople have different oppinions of music, new genre of music takes time to be accepted as such, maybe in the year 2030 we will have kettle symphonies. or symphonies made up of sounds only bats or dogs can hear and you would need special equipment to perceive it.
Oh good.
But in a discussion about what is and isn't music and what people think about that, you said:
'with music it is subjective. like it is with art. when rap appeared all were shouting "wtf this is not music, they are talking".'
So what did you mean by that?
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10 Jun 10
Originally posted by ZahlanziAs I thought, you do take them literally then. What were you thinking, claiming you didn't?
people have different oppinions of music, new genre of music takes time to be accepted as such, maybe in the year 2030 we will have kettle symphonies. or symphonies made up of sounds only bats or dogs can hear and you would need special equipment to perceive it.