29 Mar 15
Originally posted by stellspalfieIf there is no danger to the priest, then I don't see why not. Are these mental patients that are normally denied visitation? Or are there costs involved when asking a priest to visit?
Should mental health patients have access to the religion of their choice?
For example if a paranoid schizophrenic wants to see a priest, should that be arranged? Is it a human right? Is there reasons it shouldnt be a human right?
29 Mar 15
Originally posted by stellspalfieAre you sure you understand what a 'paranoid schizophrenic' actually is. I dont think you actually do or at very least you are unaware that paranoia and schizophrenia manifest themselves in different ways to different degrees. They don't necessarily have a symbiotic relationship. A much better question would be, why should someone suffering from a mental health ailment be denied recourse to a religion of their choice.
Should mental health patients have access to the religion of their choice?
For example if a paranoid schizophrenic wants to see a priest, should that be arranged? Is it a human right? Is there reasons it shouldnt be a human right?
29 Mar 15
Originally posted by OdBodThat is true. I have also seen religious recruiting going on at funerals and by sick beds for the same reason. The Catholic school I went to however did not seem to be used for recruitment in any overt way.
From a religious recruiting point of view its the perfect time to engage with someone, when they are vulnerable!
But unless we wish to outlaw religious recruiting, I don't see why we should stop a psychiatric patient from requesting an audience with a religious person.
29 Mar 15
Originally posted by stellspalfieThe issues of human rights for the mentally I'll far exceeds just their right to religious choice. That is only a very small part of a very big problem facing those who suffer with mental health issues. I know!
Should mental health patients have access to the religion of their choice?
For example if a paranoid schizophrenic wants to see a priest, should that be arranged? Is it a human right? Is there reasons it shouldnt be a human right?
My oldest son was diagnosed with schizophrenia at 18. He is now 40, and I have been caring for him without the help of the system ever since. In other words, except for my direct involvement with my son's doctor concerning his care and medications, I have not involved any other institutional resources in his life. He lives at home with his family.
But many others aren't always so fortunate. You may be interested in the link below.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/25/stigma-of-mental-illness/9875351/
29 Mar 15
Originally posted by robbie carrobie.., why should someone suffering from a mental health ailment be denied recourse to a religion of their choice."
Are you sure you understand what a 'paranoid schizophrenic' actually is. I dont think you actually do or at very least you are unaware that paranoia and schizophrenia manifest themselves in different ways to different degrees. They don't necessarily have a symbiotic relationship. A much better question would be, why should someone suffering from a mental health ailment be denied recourse to a religion of their choice.
No reason.
Another good question, maybe even a better one is, why should anyone be denied recourse to a religion of their choice?
But there is the issue of religions that can be detrimental to anyone's mental health. For example, a religion that prescribes hatred, subverts governments and trains its adherents in the Art of war.
29 Mar 15
Originally posted by twhiteheadI think the OP is alluding to a Priest reinforcing a schizophrenic's "Voice of God" in their head.
If there is no danger to the priest, then I don't see why not. Are these mental patients that are normally denied visitation? Or are there costs involved when asking a priest to visit?
It's a good question - I would always support freedom of religion but when
that religion (and presumably that is most) accept the phenomenon/miracle
of a god "speaking" directly to an individual where do you draw the line?
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29 Mar 15
Originally posted by robbie carrobieim guessing that you know i work in mental health as its been mentioned in various debates. so i can only assume you are trying to bait a reaction...if so, considering the topic, its rather pathetic.
Are you sure you understand what a 'paranoid schizophrenic' actually is. I dont think you actually do or at very least you are unaware that paranoia and schizophrenia manifest themselves in different ways to different degrees. They don't necessarily have a symbiotic relationship. A much better question would be, why should someone suffering from a mental health ailment be denied recourse to a religion of their choice.
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29 Mar 15
Originally posted by twhiteheadmy experience is that most get access to a priest or equivalent but only if they are deemed to have the ability to make an informed decision. but this raises all sorts of ethical questions.
If there is no danger to the priest, then I don't see why not. Are these mental patients that are normally denied visitation? Or are there costs involved when asking a priest to visit?
one would be- why wouldnt god speak to somebody with mental illness?should god not speak to that person to avoid them appearing delusional?
is it possible for a person to turn to the correct religion whilst having a mental episode?
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29 Mar 15
Originally posted by wolfgang59this is a good point, but not the only point i was raising. should doctors be 'suspect' when schizoid raises god?
I think the OP is alluding to a Priest reinforcing a schizophrenic's "Voice of God" in their head.
It's a good question - I would always support freedom of religion but when
that religion (and presumably that is most) accept the phenomenon/miracle
of a god "speaking" directly to an individual where do you draw the line?
29 Mar 15
Random example:
Laney woke up one night in May 2003 and took Joshua to the yard
of her home in New Chapel Hill, Texas where she lifted a huge rock
over her head and brought it down with all her strength against his
skull, killing him. She did the same thing with Luke. Later on, she
tried to kill her youngest son, 14-month-old Aaron, in the same way.
He survived, but suffered severe head injuries.
During the investigation, Laney claimed God ordered her to bash in
her sons' heads. Laney is a member of an Assemblies of God church,
where she sang in the choir.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deanna_Laney_murders
30 Mar 15
Originally posted by stellspalfieI thought Obama simply chose not to attend church. I had no idea anyone was stopping him from attending.
Should mental health patients have access to the religion of their choice?
For example if a paranoid schizophrenic wants to see a priest, should that be arranged? Is it a human right? Is there reasons it shouldnt be a human right?
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