Originally posted by robbie carrobie
do your own research and as you have provided no evidence to the contrary ,
except to display your now obligatory cynicism, i suggest its you who are the one in
ignorance and who are simply content to make things up as evidenced by this latest
proffering of yours, what reason do you have for stating that if left in its natural
state a ladies ...[text shortened]... r take your contentions to someone that actually cares about them, they
are meaningless to me.

So.... he is like the pharisees?

Originally posted by tomtom232
So.... he is like the pharisees?

its just meaningless contentiousness, he calls people out on the basis of
his own opinions, if he had corroborated the statement, fine, but he never does, it
therefore has simply no content and is meaningless.

Originally posted by moon1969
"Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?" 1 Corinthians 11:14.

Paul is the architect of Christianity, is he not. We should listen to him?

So Samson got a bye on that idea? Haircut seemed to be a bad idea at the time.

Originally posted by moon1969
"Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?" 1 Corinthians 11:14.

Paul is the architect of Christianity, is he not. We should listen to him?

ironically, christ is often depicted as a long-haired hippy.

Originally posted by VoidSpirit
ironically, christ is often depicted as a long-haired hippy.

he is also invariably depicted as being effeminate, which for a carpenter working with
hand tools in the epoch in which he lived is a nonsense, ever tried to cut down a
sizeable tree with a handsaw?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
he is also invariably depicted as being effeminate, which for a carpenter working with
hand tools in the epoch in which he lived is a nonsense, ever tried to cut down a
sizeable tree with a handsaw?

Weren't structures in the place and time of Jesus generally made of stone and not wood. Thus, Jesus as a "carpenter" more likely worked with stone, mud, and dirt, and not wood?

Originally posted by moon1969
"Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?" 1 Corinthians 11:14.

Paul is the architect of Christianity, is he not. We should listen to him?

We shouldn't .not about hair.
I think the "alien" , out there types will often have short hair cuts or shave their hair whereas the more Earthy types, the ones whose souls have been here for many lifetimes will often have long hair or dreadlocks.

(sound silly? I'm just trying to match the op)

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
do your own research and as you have provided no evidence to the contrary ,
except to display your now obligatory cynicism, i suggest its you who are the one in
ignorance and who are simply content to make things up as evidenced by this latest
proffering of yours, what reason do you have for stating that if left in its natural
state a ladies ...[text shortened]... r take your contentions to someone that actually cares about them, they
are meaningless to me.

I find his posts substantially more interesting than yours. Although you do throw out some good ones from time to time, I really cant see how you can talk about our beloved twitehead like that.

As if you own the entire forum 😛

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
In discussing the matter of headship with the Corinthian congregation, Paul called
attention to the rule that a woman should wear a head covering when praying or
prophesying before the congregation, as a sign of subjection. In illustration, he
says: “Does not nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a dishonour
to him; but i ...[text shortened]... ors that would influence their attitude as to what was natural.


source: Jehovahs Witnesses.

Nice detail. Thanks.

Originally posted by moon1969
Weren't structures in the place and time of Jesus generally made of stone and not wood. Thus, Jesus as a "carpenter" more likely worked with stone, mud, and dirt, and not wood?

No. A carpenter works with wood. Period. A stonemason works with stone. It's just more likely that carpenters busied themselves with making furniture and cabinetry rather than building structures.

Originally posted by moon1969
Weren't structures in the place and time of Jesus generally made of stone and not wood. Thus, Jesus as a "carpenter" more likely worked with stone, mud, and dirt, and not wood?

There was woodworking long before Christ, there was iron tools too, and bronze ones before that strong enough to cut and hammer wood. They may have had to make connections with wooden dowels and so forth, compared to nails of today but woodworking was an honorable craft even 5000 years ago.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
he is also invariably depicted as being effeminate, which for a carpenter working with
hand tools in the epoch in which he lived is a nonsense, ever tried to cut down a
sizeable tree with a handsaw?

Axe, surely?

Originally posted by avalanchethecat
Axe, surely?

Ok but whatever method employed the likelyhood of Christ being muscular is quite high due to the physical nature of the work.

Originally posted by moon1969
Nice detail. Thanks.

You are most welcome

Originally posted by Suzianne
No. A carpenter works with wood. Period. A stonemason works with stone. It's just more likely that carpenters busied themselves with making furniture and cabinetry rather than building structures.

First, we might call such a furniture or cabinet maker, but not a carpenter in a strict sense, which is associated with building wood structures or simple wooden objects such as boxes, scaffolds, or shelves. To give the word "carpenter" a broad definition of merely "works with wood" seems a bit of a stretch.

Second, a couple of weeks ago, I watched several documentaries on the life of Jesus on those evil Discovery and Science channels, and it was posited that Jesus was not a carpenter in the traditional sense. But that the Greek word "tecton" or "tekton" used to describe Jesus better translates into the word "contractor." Further, a couple of the theologians on one of the documentaries posited that Jesus was a builder or handyman instead of a traditional carpenter as we know it.

I also heard the words "architect" "engineer" or "contruction engineer". Not much is known about Jesus in his middle years and thus much speculation about actually what he did as a profession and that it may have been associated with customs of his father, clan, village, etc.