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    @kellyjay said
    By God not god
    In Revelation 19 in the OP you claim that there are literal robes dipped in literal blood, somewhere... who’s literal blood is this?
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    20 Oct '18 22:03
    @kellyjay said
    You being sure makes you someone to listen to because you’re an authority?
    I'm sure about what I do know because I've lived it.
    I'm an authority to myself.

    I cant make anyone listen to me and I would be wary of anyone who did without being EXTREMELY circumspect.
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    @divegeester said
    Reposting for all you brave hell-fire Christians, as per KellyJay’s request:


    Here’s a passage for all you hellfire and burning believers to have a look and and tell me this; which bits are literal and which are metaphors and symbolisms?

    From Revelation 19

    I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and Tru ...[text shortened]... nd the burning ... am I right?

    What a desperately sad doctrine of death it is that you cling to.
    this text, as well as many other spiritual, religious, and philosophical texts sound (to my experienced ear) as if written under the influence of datura, or perhaps peyote...
    some hallucinations can seem extremely real...

    as to whether or not the text is describing a literal or a metaphorical experience, i was not there,
    and so i do not know...
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    20 Oct '18 22:55
    @karoly-aczel said
    I'm sure about what I do know because I've lived it.
    I'm an authority to myself.

    I cant make anyone listen to me and I would be wary of anyone who did without being EXTREMELY circumspect.
    Than on balance I would say C3 is being honest, and you sound well, I cannot come up with a word that isn’t very insulting.
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    21 Oct '18 00:371 edit
    @kellyjay said
    Than on balance I would say C3 is being honest, and you sound well, I cannot come up with a word that isn’t very insulting.
    spit it out man?
    Calling me dishonest?

    You shroud yourself in mediocrity and 'whateverness' .

    If you disagree , then disagree. Make a point.
    Being wishy washy doesn't serve anyone well, especially yourself. Grow a pair
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    21 Oct '18 00:44
    @divegeester said
    In Revelation 19 in the OP you claim that there are literal robes dipped in literal blood, somewhere... who’s literal blood is this?
    Does it say?
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    @karoly-aczel said
    spit it out man?
    Calling me dishonest?

    You shroud yourself in mediocrity and 'whateverness' .

    If you disagree , then disagree. Make a point.
    Being wishy washy doesn't serve anyone well, especially yourself. Grow a pair
    Delusional fits verses dishonest.
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    @divegeester said
    Reposting for all you brave hell-fire Christians, as per KellyJay’s request:


    Here’s a passage for all you hellfire and burning believers to have a look and and tell me this; which bits are literal and which are metaphors and symbolisms?

    From Revelation 19

    I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and Tru ...[text shortened]... nd the burning ... am I right?

    What a desperately sad doctrine of death it is that you cling to.
    "...EXCEPT the lake of sculpture and the burning ..."

    Sculpture?

    "...am I right?"

    No.
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    21 Oct '18 01:591 edit
    @divegeester said
    Reposting for all you brave hell-fire Christians, as per KellyJay’s request:


    Here’s a passage for all you hellfire and burning believers to have a look and and tell me this; which bits are literal and which are metaphors and symbolisms?

    From Revelation 19

    I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and Tru ...[text shortened]... nd the burning ... am I right?

    What a desperately sad doctrine of death it is that you cling to.
    1. Do you know which parts of the Bible are literal?

    2. How can you tell when a passage is not meant to be taken literally?

    3. What do you believe the wrath of God refers to?
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    21 Oct '18 02:54
    @kellyjay said
    Delusional fits verses dishonest.
    what???

    Simple question: you calling me 'dishonest' ?
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    @karoly-aczel said
    what???

    Simple question: you calling me 'dishonest' ?
    Nope I said C3 response was an honest answer as he described himself. You gave one about yourself I thought showed a touch self importance. Did not suggest dishonesty that word was not my intention at all. I didn’t even want to say anything till you demanded I did.
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    @chaney3 said
    Your OP is not interesting.

    What's interesting is that you've decided hell doesn't exist, despite the bible saying it does.

    Why you feel that way is what's interesting. You have decided that you'll accept the parts of the bible that suit your own beliefs, and will discard the rest.
    Start a thread on it.
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    @secondson said
    "...EXCEPT the lake of sculpture and the burning ..."

    Sculpture?

    "...am I right?"

    No.
    Would you like to take up the challenge in the OP?

    That’s right, no you wouldn’t 😉
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    Any Christians, especially the believers in hell fire and eternal suffering, feel brave enough to take up the challenge in the OP?

    Decliners so far:

    KellyJay
    Chaney3
    SecondSon
    dj2becker
    ThinkofOne (not a Christian but a claimed follower of some of the words of Jesus but only while he was on earth)
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