@fmf saidI have rejected your beliefs about what makes a person a Christian. You are free to believe as you wish, but you are wrong.
I am an agnostic atheist and so you rejecting my beliefs is neither here nor there. The five beliefs you rejected as "fluff" and "meaningless" were the core Christian beliefs as they pertain to Jesus Christ.
@eladar saidYour definition of a Christian made absolutely no reference to Jesus Christ and was instead some kind of nonsense about whether or not someone had the same opinion as you about God and "evil".
I have rejected your beliefs about what makes a person a Christian. You are free to believe as you wish, but you are wrong.
And for good measure, you dismissed five core Christian beliefs about Jesus as "gibberish". Now, row it back if you want to by all means but anyone can go look at the other thread to see the corner you have backed yourself into.
@fmf saidExactly, so get over it. Your definition is wrong. It will always be wrong even if most agree with you. If most believe it, then that makes it very likely to be wrong.
Your definition of a Christian made absolutely no reference to Jesus Christ and was instead some kind of nonsense about whether or not someone had the same opinion as you about God and "evil".
And for good measure, you dismissed five core Christian beliefs about Jesus as "gibberish". Now, row it back if you want to by all means but anyone can go look at the other thread to see the corner you have backed yourself into.
@eladar saidYou keep saying it is "wrong" but you don't have the courage to say why you think that.
Exactly, so get over it. Your definition is wrong. It will always be wrong even if most agree with you. If most believe it, then that makes it very likely to be wrong.
Here are the core beliefs of Christians which you have dismissed as being "wrong", "gibberish", "fluff" and "meaningless":
A Christian is defined by his or her beliefs with regard to the life, death and the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
A Christian believes that God sent his son Jesus, the messiah, to save the world.
A Christian believes that Jesus was crucified and died in order to offer the forgiveness of sins and the opportunity for "salvation".
A Christian believes that Jesus rose from the dead and later ascended to heaven.
A Christian believes these things and endeavours to obey God's commandments, including those that Jesus is believed to have stipulated while he was alive, and demonstrate, by doing good works, that their faith is not dead.
Your definition of a Christian did not even mention Christ.
@eladar saidHow narrow is the gate, and restricted is the way
All Christians believe that the road to salvation is narrow and few find it. Heck even some non Christians accept that teaching.
that leads to life! Few are those who find it.
~Matthew 7:14
How ironic that these words are attributed to Jesus Christ who is not even mentioned in your definition of a Christian!
@eladar saidNo, you haven't. Indeed, you moved to this different thread in an effort to escape from and disguise the fact that chanting 'you're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong..." has not worked for you.
I have already explained why you are wrong. You simply have no eyes to see.
@fmf saidI started this thread to ask if people consider the direction to kill homosexual males evil or good.
No, you haven't. Indeed, you moved to this different thread in an effort to escape from and disguise the fact that chanting 'you're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong..." has not worked for you.
So far I believe that I am the only one to say good. Of course I do not believe any of the evil votes come from people who even claim to be Christian.
@eladar saidPresumably, you don't have an actual moral argument to make other than 'your God figure says so, so there', or words to that effect.
I started this thread to ask if people consider the direction to kill homosexual males evil or good.So far I believe that I am the only one to say good.
@eladar saidTo your way of thinking, at what point in history did executing homosexuals become "evil"?
I started this thread to ask if people consider the direction to kill homosexual males evil or good.
So far I believe that I am the only one to say good. Of course I do not believe any of the evil votes come from people who even claim to be Christian.