02 Apr 18
Originally posted by @sonshipMy Master's is in Buddhism. I have not done anything specifically with Zen Buddhism, but I am from a country that has a Zen Buddhist heritage -- it has existed as a minority that has been somewhat well accommodated by the Jogye majority. Our Jogye majority is not unlike Pure Land Buddhism.
What is it all about anyway?
The floor is completely for those enthusiastic about Zen Buddhism.
Pushy apologetic Christians like me - shut up and learn something !
Zen guys - the floor is all YOURS.
Karoly ??
Be positive.
I am curious what people will write.
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02 Apr 18
Originally posted by @philokaliaTell us about what books you read?
My Master's is in Buddhism.
Originally posted by @sonshipIs your interest genuine?
What is it all about anyway?
The floor is completely for those enthusiastic about Zen Buddhism.
Pushy apologetic Christians like me - shut up and learn something !
Zen guys - the floor is all YOURS.
Karoly ??
Be positive.
....Are you?
(Your first lesson in Zen).
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02 Apr 18
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Originally posted by @divegeesterMe,
Tell us about what books you read?
The Way of Zen by Allen Watts.
Zen and the Art of Archery (?)
Some other book on Zen koans (little wise riddles) - author/s (?)
all back in 1969,70
02 Apr 18
Rescued from another thread, for sonship's illumination (who has stated here that he wants to learn something about Zen Buddhism).
'As a great Zen Master once said, "Faith is like painting the walls of your room with mud, then trying to convince yourself that it is beautiful, and it smells good". Faith is an illusion, a dream that we strongly consider real, but that in reality only impoverishes the true spirituality of man. The strength of our faith and conviction has nothing to do with the fact that a belief is true or not. The veracity of our faith is in us only, nowhere else.
Religions feel compelled to give answers to everything as a sign of their "great wisdom", but for Zen, not giving any answer at all is actually the great wisdom.
A true religion shows man how to think and not what to think, therefore, we must learn to ask great questions rather than looking for great answers.'
http://www.zen-buddhism.net/beliefs/beliefs-and-dogmas.html
02 Apr 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeWhat is the old adage?
Is your interest genuine?
....Are you?
(Your first lesson in Zen).
When a student is ready, the teacher will appear.
I don't think it is thought to work the other way around, i.e., the teacher is hanging around with a checklist of survey questions, waiting for the student to show up.
02 Apr 18
Originally posted by @freakykbhWise man say, 'no point coming to the teapot of knowledge if you haven't got a cup.'
What is the old adage?
When a student is ready, the teacher will appear.
I don't think it is thought to work the other way around, i.e., the teacher is hanging around with a checklist of survey questions, waiting for the student to show up.
02 Apr 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeWell, I'm on my second cup.
Wise man say, 'no point coming to the teapot of knowledge if you haven't got a cup.'
Unfortunately, I went with coffee...
02 Apr 18
Originally posted by @freakykbhGood choice.
Well, I'm on my second cup.
Unfortunately, I went with coffee...
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03 Apr 18
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Originally posted by @sonshipWas I talking to you sonship, or did you just deliberately misktenly reply to my post to Jacob and use it as an opportunity to display your reading credentials?
Me,
[b]The Way of Zen by Allen Watts.
Zen and the Art of Archery (?)
Some other book on Zen koans (little wise riddles) - author/s (?)
all back in 1969,70[/b]
You even bolded them, bless.
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03 Apr 18
Originally posted by @sonshipKeeping fit is individualistic in nature.
Is there anything collective about Zen?
It seems to be very individualistic in nature.
Does it offer any kind of salvation to the collective or does is offer just millions of isolated, independent, individualistic enlightenments to its adherents?
03 Apr 18
Originally posted by @sonshipDepends if you believe they are being enlightened to individual truths or the same truth. But you do though kind of miss the point of Zen philosophy.
Is there anything collective about Zen?
It seems to be very individualistic in nature.
Does it offer any kind of salvation to the collective or does is offer just millions of isolated, independent, individualistic enlightenments to its adherents?
'Zen does not seek to answer subjective questions because these are not important issues for Zen. What really matters is the here and now: not God, not the afterlife, but the present moment here and now. Moreover, Zen firmly believes that nobody knows the answers to those questions and that they are impossible to answer because of our limited condition. Life is a dream, a grand illusion that we perceive through the filter of our personality, our experiences, our ego. This is a great piece of theater in which we do not see all the actors and in which we barely understand the role of those that we see.
Zen gladly accepts the idea that men are only men and nothing more. Man, being what he is, cannot answer life's impossible questions without falling into the trap of illusion. No one knows the answers to the deep questions about life and death.'
http://www.zen-buddhism.net/beliefs/beliefs-and-dogmas.html